Not sure if this got to the list Alex
On Wednesday 15 Jan 2014 16:46:24 you wrote: > Having said all that. It would appear that I've never had auto backup > switched on. > > Having switched it on I now see backups and autobackups for writer and calc > documents. Nothing at all for base documents. > > Alex > > > > On Wednesday 15 Jan 2014 14:35:33 Alex McMurchy wrote: > > I used to have that problem. It seems to have stopped around about 16th > > July 2013. Not sure why! > > > > Either - > > > > I upgraded LibreOffice which stopped the feature > > or I did something else which I can't remember! > > > > I'm currently on 4.1.4.2. > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday 15 Jan 2014 07:38:25 Tom Davies wrote: > > > Hi :) > > > Errr, is it possible to switch the auto-save and auto-backups off for > > > a while and see if that improves things? The thing i find difficult > > > about doing that is remembering to save properly and frequently > > > enough. With Base i think it's also important to close properly. > > > > > > There is some documentation and a handbook at > > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications > > > and the Faq at > > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq > > > might be able to help too but the best place seems to be this mailing > > > list or the Base forums at Apache OpenOffice. > > > Regards from > > > Tom :) > > > > > > On 15 January 2014 07:30, Tom Davies <tomc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi :) > > > > Errr, are you using the internal back-end? You haven't connected to > > > > an external back-end have you? You should really be keeping your data > > > > in an external back-end instead of having the whole database as a > > > > single file. > > > > > > > > Being able to do that is one of the main things that makes Base so > > > > much more powerful than Access. The internal back-end got tacked on > > > > to make Base more familiar to people who have picked up bad habits by > > > > using Access. It seems to be a bit broken though. Annoyingly the > > > > Marketing Mailing List and all our flyers, posters and leaflets (at > > > > least all the ones that mention Base at all) keep pushing people into > > > > using the internal back-end despite the fact that users have even > > > > experienced data-loss by doing so. I'm tempted to ask you to take > > > > this problem to the marketing list to get them to solve it but the > > > > experts in Base are mostly on this list and will hopefully be able to > > > > help with this issue. > > > > > > > > It should be possible to export your existing tables into an external > > > > back-end and this mailing list (note, not the marketing list) might be > > > > able to help you with that. > > > > > > > > The next smart thing about Base is that forms and reports can be, and > > > > are best made in Writer or/and (i think) Calc. So normal users who > > > > are clueless about databases can read the data in a familiar setting > > > > and use familiar tools to format and edit things around the > > > > data-fields. The forms and reports inside Base seem to be for > > > > data-entry and people who have some clue about databases. > > > > > > > > However i have never quite got around to getting to grips with all > > > > this. So hopefully some of the experts might wade in and set me > > > > straight (again) > > > > Regards from > > > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 15 January 2014 05:57, Vince Radice <vhrad...@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > > > >> I am running Fedora FC19-64 bit. Libreoffice Version: 4.1.4.2 > > > >> Build ID: 4.1.4.2-2.fc19 > > > >> > > > >> Here are some lines of a ls -la command > > > >> > > > >> -rw-------. 1 vince root 0 Dec 13 13:10 GRNew odb_0.odb > > > >> -rw-------. 1 vince root 0 Dec 13 15:58 GRNew odb_1000.odb > > > >> -rw-------. 1 vince root 0 Dec 13 15:58 GRNew odb_1001.odb > > > >> -rw-------. 1 vince root 0 Dec 13 15:58 GRNew odb_1002.odb > > > >> -rw-------. 1 vince root 0 Dec 13 15:58 GRNew odb_1003.odb > > > >> -rw-------. 1 vince root 0 Dec 13 15:58 GRNew odb_1004.odb > > > >> -rw-------. 1 vince root 0 Dec 13 15:58 GRNew odb_1005.odb > > > >> -rw-------. 1 vince root 0 Dec 13 15:59 GRNew odb_1006.odb > > > >> -rw-------. 1 vince root 0 Dec 13 15:59 GRNew odb_1007.odb > > > >> -rw-------. 1 vince root 0 Dec 13 15:59 GRNew odb_1008.odb > > > >> -rw-------. 1 vince root 0 Dec 13 15:59 GRNew odb_1009.odb > > > >> -rw-------. 1 vince root 0 Dec 13 13:26 GRNew odb_100.odb > > > >> -rw-------. 1 vince root 0 Dec 13 15:59 GRNew odb_1010.odb > > > >> > > > >> My database name is GRNew,odb. > > > >> I was looking at some of the recent messages that were talking about LO > > > >> looping saving backups of untitled documents. It mentioned Calc and > > > >> Write > > > >> as being involved. Could this be related to my problem? > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> Vince Radice > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On 01/14/2014 12:44 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Hi :) > > > >>> On Ubuntu 12.04 i have no files in there. Do the file-names start > > > >>> with a ~ or with "lock"? In either of those cases i think you can > > > >>> delete the files without worry but it might be worth testing that for > > > >>> 1 or 2 files. > > > >>> > > > >>> Going off on a tangent i do have a non-LibreOffice folder with a load > > > >>> of crash reports from when i don't close Xbmc properly and i routinely > > > >>> delete all of them from time-to-time. I'm not sure if this is similar > > > >>> or not. > > > >>> Regards from > > > >>> Tom :) > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> On 14 January 2014 04:12, Vince Radice <vhrad...@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I am seeing something and I don't know if it is a problem or > > > >>>> something I > > > >>>> have to live with. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> In the ~/.config/libreoffice/4/user/backup directory, I have 3,000+ > > > >>>> files > > > >>>> with 0 bytes. I assume that this means the files are empty. There > > > >>>> are > > > >>>> other > > > >>>> files there which are not empty. The non-empty ones appear to be > > > >>>> backups > > > >>>> of > > > >>>> files I have worked on. The empty files all appear to be attempts to > > > >>>> backup > > > >>>> a Base database that I have created using the built in hsql engine. > > > >>>> The > > > >>>> file is stored on my computer. The time stamps on the files are > > > >>>> unusual. > > > >>>> There are 6 files with a time stamp of 15:58, 6 with 15:59, 6 with > > > >>>> 16:00 > > > >>>> and > > > >>>> the pattern continues for the other 3,500 empty files. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Does any one else have the same situation? I have the save/backup > > > >>>> time > > > >>>> in > > > >>>> the general options set to 15 minutes. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I have a listing of all of the files if anyone wants to see it. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Thank you, > > > >>>> Vince Radice > > > >>>> > > > >>>> -- > > > >>>> To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > > > >>>> Problems? > > > >>>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > > >>>> Posting guidelines + more: > > > >>>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > > >>>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > > > >>>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot > > > >>>> be > > > >>>> deleted > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
