ah, remembering ... 'The Importance of Being Ernest'  ;-)

          and believe it or not, it's on-line -
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/844/844-h/844-h.htm
            of course, I didn't see the 1895 play, but thoroughly enjoyed
the 1952 movie.



From: Felmon Davis <dav...@union.edu>
Date: Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Question about LO Writer and "complex
documents"
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


On Fri, 31 Jul 2015, Gary Collins wrote:

I think that register is an important consideration. Colloquial language
> tends to be in a state of flux and dictionaries will always lag behind.
> Formal language tends to be far more conservative, and that, I think, is
> where "proper" is likely to be a more important consideration.
>
> Is either "more correct" than the other? Not really. It depends on the
> nature and purpose of the communication. But "improper" use of words and
> grammar will, of course, give the impression that the communicator has been
> "poorly educated." (Again, that could be considered a "loaded concept".)
> Where "making a good impression" is important, dictionaries are very useful
> tools indeed.
>
> /Gary
>



I fully concur. for instance misspelled words don't always impair
understanding but they can give a bad impression.

I only wanted to say dictionaries are not 'authorities' except as snapshots
of actual usage.

thanks.

f.



       From: Felmon Davis <dav...@union.edu>
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2015, 21:48
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Question about LO Writer and "complex
> documents"
>
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2015, anne-ology wrote:
>
>       grammar skillfully employed procures meaningful communication,
>>           [see below for comments to your comments]
>>
>
> yes, 'skillful' is not the same as 'proper'.
>
> or let's put it this way, 'proper' is ambiguous. it could mean
> 'according to some accepted standard' or it could be 'adept'.
>
> an act of communication can be 'improper' but apt or 'proper' but
> inept.
>
> some think 'the King and me' is 'improper' and should be 'the King and
> I'. aside from reasons of gentility they are equally fit to purpose.
>
> [pardon the deletions]
>
>       Without good communication skills, then how can anyone be a part of
>>
>>> any community  ???
>>>
>>
>> I doubt 'good communication skills' require 'proper' grammar.
>>
>>       [well, how would you punctuate this sentence? -
>>           Woman without her man is helpless
>>         (yes, it's an old time example used by probably every English
>> instructor since ... )
>>
>>       It could be 'Woman, without her man, is helpless.' or 'Woman:
>> without her, man is helpless.']
>>
>
> the spoken sentences would be unambiguous.
>
> here are some other punctuations:
>
> Woman! without her man is helpless.
> Woman - without her, man is helpless.
>
> some grammar 'authority' will favor one, some another. it is pointless
> to dispute such religious questions.
>
> speaking of which: to me it's anathema how Brits sprinkle commas all
> over their sentences; after all they aren't Germans!
>
> f.
>
>
>
-- 
Felmon Davis

Do not fold, spindle or mutilate.

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