On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 11:38:32 -0800 John Jason Jordan <joh...@gmx.com> dijo:
Thanks for all the comments. First, to restate my problem: I use Xfce4 on Xubuntu 14.04. I use the window button panel applet so that when I start a program its icon appears in the panel. I can minimize any such window by clicking on its icon in the panel, and restore by clicking again on the icon. When the window is restored it automatically gets focus. This behavior works for all windows except LO document windows when I have a floating toolbar for that window. Note that the problem only happens for LO document windows; if I start LO with the main LO window the main window takes focus when restored, as it should. Of course, the main window has no floating toolbars. I have proved beyond any doubt that having floating toolbars causes the problem. It was suggested that I try 'focus follows mouse,' so I tried it. This made my problem worse, because then no window got focus when restored until I moved the mouse over it. Here is a query from the Xfce forums that explains why this does not work for me: Hi there! I'm using Xfce 4.10.1 on Ubuntu 14.04, and I'm having a hard time with its focus behavior. I want to enable "focus follows mouse" in the window manager settings, but when I do this, windows no longer receive focus when I bring them up via the tasklist. For example, when I'm browsing in Chrome and want to bring up Emacs, I click on Emacs in the tasklist on xfce's panel. Emacs's window comes to the front, and I expect to be able to start typing right away, but Chrome still has the focus. I have to move my cursor off of the tasklist and onto Emacs, before I can type anything. I want focus to follow my mouse, but also want it to automatically focus on a window that just raised itself to the top (until I move the mouse again). Is there a way to do this? I tried changing settings in the "Focus" tab of xfwm4-settings-tweaks, but it did no good. [note: 'tasklist' = 'window buttons.'] Apparently, if you use 'focus follows mouse' there is no way to make a restored window take focus automatically, as the above poster discovered in the ensuing discussion. I tried docking my floating toolbars, and that worked! If I restore a document window with docked toolbars the window automatically gets focus. Yay! Well, not so fast. I normally need the Formatting toolbar (customized) and the Styles and Formatting toolbar. I can dock both of them, but docking my Formatting toolbar to either side causes all of the drop-downs to disappear, e.g., the style and font lists. But when the Styles and Formatting toolbar is docked it still provides the list of styles, so I don't know why the drop-downs on the formatting toolbar go away - they are no wider than the style list. And I discovered that I could remove things from the sidebar that I do not want (Gallery, Navigator and Properties), but when I close the document and re-open it the unwanted options reappear. Now, if I could just add the Formatting toolbar to the sidebar and have it display the drop-downs as well as the buttons I could live with a docked sidebar, but alas, at this time you cannot add a toolbar to the sidebar. :( Unrelated side comment: LO 5.4.3.2 added fonts that I don't want and a whole bunch of templates. I was able to uninstall the fonts, but the user cannot delete the templates. It also added dozens of styles that I don't want, and they cannot be deleted either. You can hide styles, but as soon as you close and re-open the document or even the styles and formatting toolbar they are back. On the LO website there was an announcement that you could get the development version (in alpha development still - LibreOfficeDev 6.1) and it would change the toolbars to a tabbed interface. I screwed up my courage and installed it, and it was even worse than 5.4.3.2 - still cannot add anything to the sidebar or permanently delete stuff that you don't want. And the tabs can only appear at the top of the document, just where I don't want them. Fortunately it installed itself alongside 5.4.3.2, so I can just ignore it. So here I sit, LO is sort of working, but no focus or appearance problems are solved, and it is doubtful that they can be solved, at least not for some time. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted