On Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:59:43 GMT Virgil Arrington wrote: > Ian, > > I don't know your level of experience with styles, so forgive me if I > tell you something you already know. Thanks Virgil, more information is always a big help. My biggest bit of me being clueless was the not knowing that direct formatting was overriding the style because if I highlighted a paragraph and it had the same style/font/size setting, it looked like a style and i couldn't work out why it wouldn't change when i change the style setting. > I use the "Default Style" simply as a starting point for all my other > styles. I rarely actually apply the "Default Style" to a given paragraph. > > LO's styles are hierarchical in nature, so that subordinate styles will > share certain formatting characteristics of the parent style. I think i need to get a graphical representation printed out and stuck about my monitor.
> Rather than use LO's built-in styles, I tend to create my own, so my > style hierarchy looks something like this: > I like to stick to the standard one but change the font etc i don;t do enough writing to justify creating a new set for myself. > Default Style > BodySingle (just like Default, but with a 1 pica empty space above > the paragraph) > BodySingleIndent (just like BodySingle, but with no empty space > above the paragraph, and the first line indented 2 picas) > BodyDouble (just like BodySingle, but with double spacing, and > an indented first line) > Title (Usually a different font style and size and centered with > spacing above and below the paragraph) > > Each subordinate style will inherit most formatting characteristics from > the parent style, but then change one or two particular attributes. For > example, BodyDouble will inherit its font (style and size) and margins > from BodySingle, which, in turn, inherits those attributes from Default > Style. If I change the font style or size in Default Style, then that > change will apply to BodySingle, BodySingleIndent, and BodyDouble. It > will not, however, affect my Title style as I control the font at that > level. > > Likewise, BodyDouble has a unique formatting attribute. It is double > spaced. So, if I change the line spacing in Default Style (say from > single to 1.5 lines or to a proportional line spacing) that change > *will* carry forward to BodySingle and BodySingleIndent (both of which > share the line spacing of Default Style), but it will *not* affect the > line spacing of BodyDouble, which will remain double spaced, because I > set the line spacing for that style within BodyDouble itself. > > The key is to know which attributes are dictated by any given paragraph > style and to make changes at the proper style within the hierarchy that > it affects all of the paragraphs you want changed, and only those > paragraphs. > > When making formatting changes to styles make sure you do it properly. > Do not just put your cursor in a given paragraph and start changing > formatting from the toolbar or the "properties" panel in the sidebar. > That will result in "direct formatting," which will not change the > style. Instead, make sure you right-click on the particular style you > want to change in the style list (sidebar), and select "Modify." Any > changes you make should affect that style and any subordinate styles > that share the same attribute that is being changed. I think this is where i went wrong. Is there an obvious indicator that shows its direct formatting as opposed to a style? It would be handy when picking up someone else's document (which is what happened here) > If it doesn't, then that most likely means you have direct formatting > peppered in along with style-based formatting. If that is the case, then > I would follow Steve's advice and select all of the text (Ctrl-A) and > clear direct formatting (Ctrl-M). At that point, you should have all of > your formatting controlled at the style level. Yes, I'm going to do that now i know it exists. > I hope all this makes sense. It's easier to do than to explain. Great explanation, thanks a lot for your time. > Virgil regards Ian > -- opensuse:tumbleweed:20180130 Qt: 5.10.0 KDE Frameworks: 5.42.0 - KDE Plasma: 5.11.95 - kwin 5.11.95 kmail2 5.7.1 - akonadiserver 5.7.1 - Kernel: 4.14.15-1-default - xf86-video-nouveau: 1.0.15 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
