Thanks for this. I tried it and got back to the default menu bar. Graham
On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 at 22:50, Virgil Arrington <cuyfa...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On 07/04/2018 11:47 AM, Tom Davies wrote: > > Hi :) > > Ok, last email on this for a while! > > > > This wiki-page seems to be about the feature but i couldn't see any > mention > > of ohw to switch it off > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/NotebookBar > > but prolly because i only skimmed it > > Regards from > > a Tom :) > > I just tried it, too, and had the same problem of switching off the > notebookbar. > > I found that there is more than one option for notebookbar. Some of them > allow you to retain the normal menu bar, but other do not. In my > experimentation, I clicked on one of the options that does *not* retain > the menu bar. Without the menu bar I was left only with the notebookbar > options and none of them included a way to get rid of it or get back to > normal. > > I was in Impress at the time. I tried opening up Writer, which came up > with the standard menu/toolbar. I then clicked on "Tools", "Options", > "Advanced", and un-checked the box to allow experimental features. I > then saved my choice, closed LO and reopened it. However, when I > reopened Impress, I was still faced with the Notebookbar even though I > had unchecked the experimental features. I was afraid I was going to > have to rename my configuration folder, which I really didn't want to do. > > So, then I clicked on "Tools", "Options", "Advanced" and then clicked on > "Open Expert Configuration." I am no expert and had never clicked on > this before, but stay with me on this. > > When the expert configuration popped up, I did a search for > "notebookbar". From within the results of the search, I scrolled down to > see, "org.openoffice.Office.UI.Notebookbar:Application["Impress"]" Below > that line were various preferences that could be changed. I looked in > the "Property" column and found several that read "HasMenubar". Some > said "true" for the value, but most said "false". I took the "true" > value to mean that the menu bar would be available with those particular > notebookbars. So I clicked on every preference line that read > "HasMenubar" so that its value switched to "true". > > After doing that, I pressed OK and restarted LO. This time, when I > opened Impress, I was again faced with the NoteBookbar, but the normal > menu bar was also available. I was then able to go into "View", "Toolbar > Layout" and turn off the notebookbar. > > So much for trying experimental functions. > > I will say that, while I was playing with the notebookbar, I didn't see > any real advantage to it. Under the default menu/toolbar system, the > user can find all functions through the menu and then use toolbars for > single-click shortcuts. With the notebookbar (like MS's Ribbon) the > menus and toolbars are combined, meaning that, for many of the > functions, one must use multiple clicks through tabs and options within > tabs to find the desired function. It certainly isn't any faster than > the old-style system, although I imagine that, over time, I could grow > to appreciate the organization of it. > > Virgil > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy