Am 09.04.2015 um 23:09 schrieb Feng Zhang:

> I know that some people use ssh as rsh_command, which may have similar 
> problem?

Not when you have a tight integration of `ssh` in SGE:

https://arc.liv.ac.uk/SGE/htmlman/htmlman5/remote_startup.html section "SSH 
TIGHT INTEGRATION"

Then `ssh` can't spawn any process which escapes form SGE.

-- Reuti


> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Reuti <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Am 09.04.2015 um 21:23 schrieb Chris Dagdigian:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm one of the people who has been arguing for years that technological 
>>> methods for stopping abuse of GE systems never work in the long term 
>>> because motivated users always have more time and interest than overworked 
>>> admins so it's kind of embarrassing to ask this but ...
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have a script that runs on a node and prints out all the 
>>> userland processes that are not explicitly a child of a sge_sheperd daemon?
>>> 
>>> I'm basically looking for a light way to scan a node just to see if there 
>>> are users/tasks running that are outside the awareness of the SGE qmaster.  
>>> Back in the day when we talked about this it seemed that one easy method 
>>> was just looking for user stuff that was not a child process of a SGE 
>>> daemon process.
>>> 
>>> The funny thing is that it's not the HPC end users who do this. As the 
>>> grid(s) get closer and closer to the enterprise I'm starting to see 
>>> software developers and others trying to play games and then plead 
>>> ignorance when asked "why did you SSH to a compute node and start a tomcat 
>>> service out of your home directory?". heh.
>> 
>> Why allow `ssh` to a node at all? In my installations only the admins can do 
>> this. If users want to peek around on a node I have an interactive queue 
>> with a h_cpu limit of 60 seconds for this. So even login in to a node is 
>> controlled by SGE.
>> 
>> -- Reuti
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> -chris
>>> 
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> Best,
> 
> Feng
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