OK, if you already have implemented the feature than any further discussion is moot. People who want to prohibit devs in a project to disable @AutoFinal selectively on e.g. a class will have to employ a CodeNarc rule, and that is that.

Cheers,
Markus


On 09.10.2017 03:53, Paul King wrote:
I added the ability to disable. It is similar to what we do in other places and just because the flag is there, doesn't mean you have to use it. Anyway, have a play and let me know what you think.

Cheers, Paul.

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:42 AM, MG <mg...@arscreat.com <mailto:mg...@arscreat.com>> wrote:

    Hi Paul,

    a temporal refactoring argument - good point.

    But you could also temporarily enable AutoFinal for a project and
    start fixing the spots which do not compile, and only when you are
    finished (I would actually expect this to take much less time than
    switiching a project to CompileStatic, since the fixes are much
    more trivial), permanently turn on AutoFinal for the whole
    project. I think my argument still applies here: AutoFinal is
    useful, when you can trust that it is active everywhere. If you
    are not worried about that, there is no need for you to use final
    anywhere (be it automatic or explicit) in the first place. That is
    why I suggested a compiler switch in the beginning (though I get
    and accept why that was rejected).

    "Doing things the same as in other parts of Groovy" is of course
    an argument that generally does make sense. "Least surprise" with
    regard to interfaces... ;-)

    KR,
    Markus




    On 09.10.2017 01:16, Paul King wrote:
    My inclination would be that if you are going to have a disable
    option at the method/constructor level, then I'd also enable it
    at the class level. Imagine inheriting a large Groovy code base
    and you want to migrate it towards have auto finals. With a class
    level option you could enable it globally with a configscript and
    selectively disable on classes that you haven't got around to
    "fixing" to comply with the stricter style yet. As you start
    working on a class you might move it from the class level to just
    the violating methods/constructors and then eventually remove all
    once you have completed the conversion process. We have the same
    kind of approach in place for CompileStatic.

    Cheers, Paul.


    On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 5:58 AM, MG <mg...@arscreat.com
    <mailto:mg...@arscreat.com>> wrote:

        Hi Groovy users,

        we are putting the final touches (no pun intended) on the
        Groovy @AutoFinal annotation. The intended use is to apply
        the annotation automatically to all project classes (see e.g.
        
http://mrhaki.blogspot.co.at/2016/01/groovy-goodness-customising-groovy.html
        
<http://mrhaki.blogspot.co.at/2016/01/groovy-goodness-customising-groovy.html>),
        thereby making all parameters anywhere in the project code
        final without the need to clutter the code with final
        keywords in parameter lists.

        The question is, if there should be support to disable the
        annotation selectively for e.g. a class or method. I
        personally think that disabling it for a class violates the
        principle of least surprise, but am not as sure for methods.
        So the question is, can anyone come up with a good example
        where disabling @AutoFinal selectively would make sense ?
        (Note: "So I can assign a value to a parameter" for me does
        not constitute such an example, since in that case one can
        just define a local, non-final variable and assign the
        parameter to it).

        Cheers,
        mg






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