Hi Jochen,

I have put your concerns about subjective/annoying SPAM warnings (which I share) into the "Warnings in Groovy" issue I created (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-8570). Using errors is evidently not possible in this case, and using an external "code style" checking tool would not fulfill my intended purpose due to its non-mandatory nature. The same goes for a Go-like "code formatter tool", for which I think we also do not have the the resources to create it (even though that would be nice).

Most importantly: You would never see any of these warnings in any case, because why would you use Java- instead of Groovy-syntax in your code ?-)

Cheers,
mg


On 01.05.2018 17:20, Jochen Theodorou wrote:
On 01.05.2018 16:26, MG wrote:
I think we should do this, for cases where the rewards of adhering to idiomatic Groovy are less obvious or it might be missed that there even _is_ an idiomatic Groovy way to do things (I have heard some people were not aware that array initialization without "as" was supported in Groovy ;-) ).
Any particular thoughts on how to go about adding such warnings ?

if people care about my position:
* for me compiler warnings are useless. Either there is a problem, then it is an error, or there is not, then there is no need for a warning. C(++) is really bad here and Java also has a bad tradition on this, that is getting worse. I used to work with gcc for example with -Wall -Werror, which means to turn on most of the warnings and make them errors.
* code styling is not the task of the compiler
* I have nothing against an extra tool, that tells people about coding standards and idiomatic ways, as long as it is not part of the compiler itself and I am not forced to use it. I really do not appreciate sonar (nothing against the project really!) for example telling me about the order of modifiers in my java code, just because of some obscure readability aspect ;) * and if you really want things to be aligned, do it like Go and make a "code formatter tool" (it really has to be more than that), that changes your code to "idiomatic" usage.

bye Jochen


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