I wonder whether this could be related to a discussion on the dev list that 
took place around the last August-September timeframe, about the handling of 
file handles across restarts on different OS platforms.

You can find the thread here: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]/msg37412.html

The following is a quote from the STATUS file for 2.0.x:

RELEASE SHOWSTOPPERS:

   * core log.c: Authored and Reviewed by both rplume and wrowe within 
     the same 10 minutes, share only a single apr_file_t/fd between the
     stderr and server_main->error_log to prevent any lingering write 
     handles from hanging around in unexpected ways.
        http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&revision=580437
      PR 43491, solution validated by reporter
      +1: wrowe, rpluem

   * core log.c: Work around possible solutions rejected by apr for
     the old implementation of apr_proc_create(), and explicitly pass
     the output and error channels to all log processes created.
     This goes all the way back to piped logs failing to run on win32.
     Not in or needed at trunk/, as apr 1.3.0 has the proper fix.
       http://people.apache.org/~wrowe/httpd-2.0-2.2-procattr-bugfix-log.c.patch
     +1: wrowe
     rpluem says: Is this really the correct thing to do on UNIX? I am not sure
     if all dup2 implementation notice that both fd's are the same. Otherwise
     they close stdout/stderr first and dup a then closed fd in stdout/stderr,
     leaving us without stdout/stderr in the child. 


-ascs
 
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Chris Boyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Envoyé : mercredi 14 novembre 2007 20:37
À : users@httpd.apache.org
Objet : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lingering children tying up file handles

Hello... We're using Apache 2.0.59 on Solaris.  I've noticed over the last few 
bug/security releases, file handles being held open on rotated log files when 
using graceful restarts.

>From what I understand, graceful restarting is the best way to do log
rotation.  But over the course of a few nightly log rotations, there are 
rotated logs that never have their file handles closed, causing df to 
incorrectly report a full filesystem.  The only fix is to either a) kill the 
offending server process (if identifiable) or b) do a hard restart.

In the ps output below, I was able to identify the offending server (see Nov 11 
process **):

  nobody 23698  7548  0 12:26:15 ? httpd -k start
  nobody 23769  7548  0 12:27:30 ? httpd -k start
  nobody 23508  7548  0 12:24:33 ? httpd -k start
  nobody 26870  7548  0   Nov 11 ? httpd -k start **
  nobody 23704  7548  0 12:26:39 ? httpd -k start
    root  7548     1  0   Nov 08 ? httpd -k start
  nobody 25972  7548  0 18:40:32 ? httpd -k start
  nobody 23766  7548  0 12:27:10 ? httpd -k start
  nobody 23572  7548  0 12:25:00 ? httpd -k start
  nobody 23636  7548  0 12:25:08 ? httpd -k start
  nobody 23430  7548  0 12:23:29 ? httpd -k start
  nobody 23436  7548  0 12:23:34 ? httpd -k start
  nobody 23703  7548  0 12:26:37 ? httpd -k start
  nobody 23767  7548  0 12:27:18 ? httpd -k start

The Nov 11 server was three days old (and was not the parent process), so it 
stuck out, and killing it "freed up" the "used" space in df.

We use the worker MPM as follows:

StartServers           40
MaxClients            350
MinSpareThreads        40
MaxSpareThreads        75
ThreadsPerChild        25
MaxRequestsPerChild 10000

I tried setting MaxRequestsPerChild in an effort to force aging children to 
die, but that hasn't helped.

Can anyone explain why these rogue children are not going away over time?  Do I 
simply need to stop using "graceful" in my log rotations (though less 
desirable)?

Thanks for reading.


--
Chris Boyce



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