Hi Chris,

Please see my comments below.

Thanks,
Rich

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:20 AM, Christopher Schultz <
ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:

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> Rich,
>
> On 2/9/16 6:21 PM, cloud force wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Christopher Schultz
> > <ch...@christopherschultz.net
> > <mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net>> wrote:
> >
> > Rich,
> >
> > On 2/9/16 4:09 PM, cloud force wrote:
> >> Yes I do have* *some regulatory requirement to use FIPS and I
> >> have built the FIPS capable OpenSSL lib.
> >
> > Where is that library located on the disk?
> >
> >> [Rich] The new libcrypto.so located in the same directory
> >> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
> >
> >
> >
> >> I tried to add the "SSLFIPS on" parameter to the httpd.conf
> >> config file as suggested in the ssl_mod manual page, but the
> >> httpd failed to start with errors which seemed to due to the fact
> >> that my apache server was not compiled against an SSL library
> >> which support the FIPS_mode flag.
> >
> > Maybe you are getting the system-provided OpenSSL library and not
> > the one you custom-built.
> >
> >> I need helps with guidance of how to compile apache server with
> >> FIPS capable OpenSSL lib so that the Apache server can be
> >> operating under the OpenSSL FIPS mode.
> >
> > Recompiling httpd is never needed to switch-out a shared library.
> > You just need to fix the way the OS loads things.
> >
> >> [Rich] How do I do that?
>
> That depends upon the answers to your various questions.
>
> > What OS? What version of that OS? Architecture, etc.?
> >
> >> [Rich] Ubuntu Linux 64 bit (version 12.04)
> >
> >
> > How did you install httpd?
> >
> >> [Rich] Httpd is packaged by Ubuntu as a package called apache2,
> >> and I installed the apache2 package.
>
> Good. Keep that package as it is.
>
> > How did you install OpenSSL (originally)?
> >
> >> [Rich] OpenSSL is also packaged by Ubuntu as a package. I
> >> installed the original Ubuntu openssl package.
>
> Okay. And that package is still installed and not broken?
>
> > Did you build the FIPS-capable OpenSSL library yourself or did you
> > get it from some other source?
> >
> >> [Rich] I downloaded the FIPS modules source and built it with the
> >> stock openssl library, and then installed the newly rebuild FIPS
> >> capable openssl library. I was able to verify by using the FIPS
> >> capable openssl lib, running the openssl command to generate a
> >> MD5 checksum failed due to it's an non-approved FIPS algorithm.
>
> Okay, good. IIRC, the "openssl" CLI is statically-linked so that will
> always work as long as you use the full path to the FIPS-capable
> openssl binary. Getting another program to load using the FIPS-capable
> library takes a bit of work.
>
> > Where is the FIPS-capable OpenSSL library on the disk?
> >
> >> [Rich] The .so files are mostly under the directory
> >> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
>
> Isn't that where the Ubuntu-packages libraries are as well?
>
[Rich] Yes, basically my newly built FIPS capable OpenSSL lib files
replaced the original Ubuntu installed ones.


>
> What does this command show?
>
> $ dpkg -L libssl1.0.0
>
> (This will still work if you have OpenSSL 1.0.1.)
>
> Where *exactly* are the FIPS-capable libraries you built? There should
> be several .so files produced by the build. What are they and where
> did you put them?
>
> > How do you launch httpd?
> >
> >> [Rich] Ubuntu uses upstart script to launch service like httpd. I
> >> just ran the upstart script (service apache2 start) to start the
> >> httpd.
>
> Ultimately, this is going to involve you adjusting the LD_LIBRARY_PATH
> environment variable to point to the place where your FIPS-capable
> OpenSSL libraries are. But if you put them into the existing library
> search path, you may have broken both your original OpenSSL
> installation, plus the FIPS-capable libraries as well.
>
[Rich] My understanding is, if I replace the Ubuntu installed OpenSSL lib
files with the FIPS capable version built by myself, as long as the
application which uses openssl (e.g. Apache server) doesn't explicitly
invoke FIPS_mode_set() API to enable FIPS mode, they will work pretty much
the same as there 's no FIPS.
>From the ssl_mod's doc it looks like I need to recomplile with some
different option so that it will allow Apache to invoke FIPS_mode_set API,
as I did find the FIPS_mode_set API got invoked somewhere in the stock
httpd source code. Is my understanding correct?

>
> It would be best to keep the FIPS-capable libraries somewhere out of
> the way where you won't confuse them with the package-installed ones.
>
> - -chris
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