Hello Andy,

Thank you for taking the interest in the needs of the community! I really
do appreciate it.

I do make use of SHACL-SPARQL, mostly because it's easier for me to do so
rather than writing the more complex constraints in pure SHACL. When using
SHACL-AF rules, I always use SPARQL, because writing the same thing down in
RDF is way harder and less intuitive for me.

I'm not a huge fan of this solution, I'd really prefer if it was easier to
write SHACL constraints and rules in a concise way. I guess this is the
goal of the compact syntax spec. My opinion is that it would be useful if
the compact syntax borrowed a lot of syntax elements from SPARQL, then it
would be very easy for people to switch to it.

SHACL rules – yes, definitely, a lot. A random thought: it would be nice if
just by looking at a SHACL inference rule I could tell roughly it's time
complexity – something like OWL 2 profiles that group OWL features.

czw., 19 gru 2024 o 10:18 Andy Seaborne <[email protected]> napisał(a):

>
>
> On 18/12/2024 01:53, Nicholas Car wrote:
> > The W3C has formed a second Data Shapes WG to extend and maintain
> SHACL-based Recommendations (standards).
>
> > Please see the proposed Deliverables:
> >
> > - SHACL 1.2 Core
> >
> > - SHACL 1.2 SPARQL Extensions
> > - SHACL 1.2 User Interfaces
> > - SHACL 1.2 Inferencing Rules
> > - SHACL 1.2 Profiling
> >
> > - SHACL 1.2 Compact Syntax
>
> What do you want to see in SHACL 1.2?
>
> * Are there missing SHACL-Core constraints that you would find useful?
>
> * Do you make use of SHACL-SPARQL?
> * Do you find you have to use SHACL-SPARQL for simple tasks?
>
> * What do you think about SHACL compact syntax?
>
> * Would you use SHACL rules (SHACL inference)?
>
> * any other SHACL thoughts?
>
> I have joined the working group (as an ASF representative) and I'd like
> to hear what matters to you.
>
>      Andy
>
> N.B.
>
> The working group github repo is:
>
>      https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes
>
> The WG is just starting up, the repo has the original SHACL 1.0 documents.
>
> https://github.com/w3c/shacl is the community group github area and has
> the draft input documents and many community-raised issues.
>
>

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Piotr Sowiński
https://ostrzyciel.eu

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