Ah yes. OK, thanks! So it seems like we should only manually trigger
re-election after seeing that all replicas are in the ISR. Is there a bug
to follow this up?

Thanks,
Jad.


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> With ack=-1 all messages produced to leader must have been acked by all
> replicas to respond. So that will not cause data loss.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Jad Naous <jad.na...@appdynamics.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Guozhang,
> >
> > Isn't it also possible to lose messages even if the preferred leader is
> in
> > the ISR, when the current leader is ahead by a few messages, but the
> > preferred leader still has not caught up?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jad.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jad,
> > >
> > > Thanks for bring this up. It seems to be a valid issue: in the current
> > auto
> > > leader rebalancer thread's logic, if the imbalance ratio threshold is
> > > violated, then it will trigger the preferred leader election whether or
> > not
> > > the preferred leader is in ISR or not.
> > >
> > > Guozhang
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Jad Naous <jad.na...@appdynamics.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I have a test that continuously sends messages to one broker, brings
> up
> > > > another broker, and adds it as a replica for all partitions, with it
> > > being
> > > > the preferred replica for some. I have
> > auto.leader.rebalance.enable=true,
> > > > so replica election gets triggered. Data is being pumped to the old
> > > broker
> > > > all the while. It seems that some data gets lost while switching over
> > to
> > > > the new leader. Is this a bug, or do I have something misconfigured?
> I
> > > also
> > > > have request.required.acks=-1 on the producer.
> > > >
> > > > Here's what I think is happening:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Producer writes message to broker 0, [EventServiceUpsertTopic,13],
> > w/
> > > > broker 0 currently leader, with ISR=(0), so write returns
> successfully,
> > > > even when acks = -1. Correlation id 35836
> > > >
> > > > Producer log:
> > > >
> > > > [2014-07-24 14:44:26,991]  [DEBUG]  [dw-97 - PATCH
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> /v1/events/type_for_test_bringupNewBroker_shouldRebalance_shouldNotLoseData/event?_idPath=idField&_mergeFields=field1]
> > > > [kafka.producer.BrokerPartitionInfo]  Partition
> > > > [EventServiceUpsertTopic,13] has leader 0
> > > >
> > > > [2014-07-24 14:44:26,993]  [DEBUG]  [dw-97 - PATCH
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> /v1/events/type_for_test_bringupNewBroker_shouldRebalance_shouldNotLoseData/event?_idPath=idField&_mergeFields=field1]
> > > > [k.producer.async.DefaultEventHandler]  Producer sent messages with
> > > > correlation id 35836 for topics [EventServiceUpsertTopic,13] to
> broker
> > 0
> > > on
> > > > localhost:56821
> > > > 2. Broker 1 is still catching up
> > > >
> > > > Broker 0 Log:
> > > >
> > > > [2014-07-24 14:44:26,992]  [DEBUG]  [kafka-request-handler-3]
> > > > [kafka.cluster.Partition]  Partition [EventServiceUpsertTopic,13] on
> > > broker
> > > > 0: Old hw for partition [EventServiceUpsertTopic,13] is 971. New hw
> is
> > > 971.
> > > > All leo's are 975,971
> > > >
> > > > [2014-07-24 14:44:26,992]  [DEBUG]  [kafka-request-handler-3]
> > > > [kafka.server.KafkaApis]  [KafkaApi-0] Produce to local log in 0 ms
> > > >
> > > > [2014-07-24 14:44:26,992]  [DEBUG]  [kafka-processor-56821-0]
> > > > [kafka.request.logger]  Completed request:Name: ProducerRequest;
> > Version:
> > > > 0; CorrelationId: 35836; ClientId: ; RequiredAcks: -1; AckTimeoutMs:
> > > 10000
> > > > ms from client /127.0.0.1:57086
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> ;totalTime:0,requestQueueTime:0,localTime:0,remoteTime:0,responseQueueTime:0,sendTime:0
> > > > 3. Leader election is triggered by the scheduler:
> > > >
> > > > Broker 0 Log:
> > > >
> > > > [2014-07-24 14:44:26,991]  [INFO ]  [kafka-scheduler-0]
> > > > [k.c.PreferredReplicaPartitionLeaderSelector]
> > > > [PreferredReplicaPartitionLeaderSelector]: Current leader 0 for
> > > partition [
> > > > EventServiceUpsertTopic,13] is not the preferred replica. Trigerring
> > > > preferred replica leader election
> > > >
> > > > [2014-07-24 14:44:26,993]  [DEBUG]  [kafka-scheduler-0]
> > > > [kafka.utils.ZkUtils$]  Conditional update of path
> > > > /brokers/topics/EventServiceUpsertTopic/partitions/13/state with
> value
> > > >
> > >
> >
> {"controller_epoch":1,"leader":1,"version":1,"leader_epoch":3,"isr":[0,1]}
> > > > and expected version 3 succeeded, returning the new version: 4
> > > >
> > > > [2014-07-24 14:44:26,994]  [DEBUG]  [kafka-scheduler-0]
> > > > [k.controller.PartitionStateMachine]  [Partition state machine on
> > > > Controller 0]: After leader election, leader cache is updated to
> > > >
> > >
> >
> Map(<Snipped>(Leader:1,ISR:0,1,LeaderEpoch:3,ControllerEpoch:1),<EndSnip>)
> > > >
> > > > [2014-07-24 14:44:26,994]  [INFO ]  [kafka-scheduler-0]
> > > > [kafka.controller.KafkaController]  [Controller 0]: Partition [
> > > > EventServiceUpsertTopic,13] completed preferred replica leader
> > election.
> > > > New leader is 1
> > > > 4. Broker 1 is still behind, but it sets the high water mark to
> 971!!!
> > > >
> > > > Broker 1 Log:
> > > >
> > > > [2014-07-24 14:44:26,999]  [INFO ]  [kafka-request-handler-6]
> > > > [kafka.server.ReplicaFetcherManager]  [ReplicaFetcherManager on
> broker
> > 1]
> > > > Removed fetcher for partitions [EventServiceUpsertTopic,13]
> > > >
> > > > [2014-07-24 14:44:27,000]  [DEBUG]  [kafka-request-handler-6]
> > > > [kafka.cluster.Partition]  Partition [EventServiceUpsertTopic,13] on
> > > broker
> > > > 1: Old hw for partition [EventServiceUpsertTopic,13] is 970. New hw
> is
> > > -1.
> > > > All leo's are -1,971
> > > >
> > > > [2014-07-24 14:44:27,098]  [DEBUG]  [kafka-request-handler-3]
> > > > [kafka.server.KafkaApis]  [KafkaApi-1] Maybe update partition HW due
> to
> > > > fetch request: Name: FetchRequest; Version: 0; CorrelationId: 1;
> > > ClientId:
> > > > ReplicaFetcherThread-0-1; ReplicaId: 0; MaxWait: 500 ms; MinBytes: 1
> > > bytes;
> > > > RequestInfo: [EventServiceUpsertTopic,13] ->
> > > > PartitionFetchInfo(971,1048576), <Snipped>
> > > >
> > > > [2014-07-24 14:44:27,098]  [DEBUG]  [kafka-request-handler-3]
> > > > [kafka.cluster.Partition]  Partition [EventServiceUpsertTopic,13] on
> > > broker
> > > > 1: Recording follower 0 position 971 for partition [
> > > > EventServiceUpsertTopic,13].
> > > >
> > > > [2014-07-24 14:44:27,100]  [DEBUG]  [kafka-request-handler-3]
> > > > [kafka.cluster.Partition]  Partition [EventServiceUpsertTopic,13] on
> > > broker
> > > > 1: Highwatermark for partition [EventServiceUpsertTopic,13] updated
> to
> > > 971
> > > > 5. Consumer is none the wiser. All data that was in offsets 972-975
> > > doesn't
> > > > show up!
> > > >
> > > > I tried this with 2 initial replicas, and adding a 3rd which is
> > supposed
> > > to
> > > > be the leader for some new partitions, and this problem also happens
> > > there.
> > > > The log on the old leader gets truncated to the offset on the new
> > leader.
> > > > What's the solution? Can I make a new broker leader for partitions
> that
> > > are
> > > > currently active without losing data?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jad.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >  *Jad Naous* | Engineering | AppDynamics
> > > >  <http://www.appdynamics.com>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > -- Guozhang
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >  *Jad Naous* | Engineering | AppDynamics
> >  <http://www.appdynamics.com>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> -- Guozhang
>



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