If you are using the high-level consumer then yes you would be under a
group. If you are using the simple consumer then no. I just saw your
earlier email in this thread - if you are using the simple consumer
you can still use the offset commit API and set a group manually.

On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 09:24:06AM -0700, Weide Zhang wrote:
> Thanks Joel. Do you know if I'm using consumer group string 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Joel Koshy <jjkosh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Weide, 0.8.1.1 does not support offsets storage in Kafka. The brokers
> > do support offset commit requests/fetches but simply forward to
> > ZooKeeper - you can issue the offset commit and fetch requests to any
> > broker. Kafka-backed consumer offsets is currently in trunk and will
> > be released in 0.8.2.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Joel
> > 
> > On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 02:57:02PM -0700, Weide Zhang wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > It seems to me that 0.8.1.1 doesn't have the ConsumerMetadata API. So what
> > > broker I should choose in order to commit and fetch offset information ?
> > > Shall I use zookeeper for offset to manage it manually instead ?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Weide
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Weide Zhang <weo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I'm reading the offset management on the API link.
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/A+Guide+To+The+Kafka+Protocol#AGuideToTheKafkaProtocol-OffsetCommit/FetchAPI
> > > >
> > > > I have a couple of questions regarding using the offset fetch and commit
> > > > API in 0.8.1.1 ?
> > > >
> > > > 1. Is the new offset commit and fetch api usable in use in 0.8.1.1 ?  
> > > > Does
> > > > 0.8.1.1 already support offset coordinator ?
> > > >
> > > > 2. what's the difference between old offsetrequest and new
> > > > offsetfetchrequest ? It seems to me that the new api support per 
> > > > consumer
> > > > group offset management fetch while old api doesn't. Also, what's the
> > > > purpose of using a timestamp parameter in the fetch request ?
> > > >
> > > > 3. In 0.8.1.1, the OffsetCommitRequest uses OffsetMetadataAndError, 
> > > > could
> > > > you tell me what's the purpose of the error parameter and metadata
> > > > parameter in the request ?
> > > >
> > > > 4. Can I assume the offset management is purely independent of message
> > > > consumption ? In other words, if I use a simple consumer to fetch 
> > > > message
> > > > with random client id, can I still manually set some consumer group 
> > > > along
> > > > with offset in the offset commit message ? Is that allowed ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Weide
> > > >
> 

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