Thanks!

On 11 February 2017 at 18:39, Eno Thereska <eno.there...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes you are correct Elliot. If you look at it just from the point of view
> of what's in the topic, and how the topic is configured (e.g., with
> "compact") there is no difference.
>
>
> Thanks
> Eno
>
> > On 11 Feb 2017, at 17:56, Elliot Crosby-McCullough <elliot...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > For my own clarity, is there any actual distinction between
> > `stream.to('topic')`
> > where `topic` is set to compact and the upcoming
> `stream.toTable('topic')`
> > if you're not going to immediately use the table in this topology, i.e.
> if
> > you want to use it as a table in some other processor application?  Am I
> > right in my understanding that the table aspect is related to behaviour
> > within this specific processor (GlobalKTables aside)?
> >
> > On 10 February 2017 at 21:59, Matthias J. Sax <matth...@confluent.io>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I agree that the API can be improved and we are working on that.
> >>
> >> Btw: KStream#toTable() was already suggested in KIP-114 discussion:
> >>
> >> http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND19QaLMqiR2e1?subj=
> >> Re+DISCUSS+KIP+114+KTable+materialization+and+improved+semantics
> >>
> >>
> >> However for now, you can only choose from the two options as described.
> >>
> >>
> >> -Matthias
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/10/17 1:49 PM, Nick DeCoursin wrote:
> >>> To be honest, I don't think either of these options are very good.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> stream.to("some-other-topic");
> >>> builder.table("some-other-topic");
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> As explained here
> >>> <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/kafka-users/
> >> 201702.mbox/browser>,
> >>> if the underlying topic doesn't have cleanup.policy=compact, the state
> >>> store may invisibly lose data!
> >>>
> >>> As for the second option, it's obviously verbose, and it doesn't let me
> >>> choose the topic name. As a result, I end with some long weird
> changelog
> >>> topic name; and, some of the Kafka Connectors map topics to the table
> >> name,
> >>> eeeh.
> >>>
> >>> To improve this, just add a topic parameter to both of the overloaded
> >>> KGroupedStream.reduce methods:
> >>>
> >>> reduce(Reducer<V> reducer, String, topicName, String storeName)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Furthermore, there should be a short cut to the second option, like
> this:
> >>>
> >>> // Creates a KTable from the KStream where
> >>> // the key of the KStream is the key of the KTable.
> >>> // Any latter key overwrites the former.
> >>> someStream.table(
> >>>   Serde<K>,
> >>>   Serde<V>,
> >>>   topicName,
> >>>   tableName
> >>> );
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> or maybe the Serdes can be inferred? Either way, this would be a nice
> >> clean
> >>> approach to a (maybe?) common use case.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>> Nick
> >>>
> >>> On 25 January 2017 at 07:46, Nick DeCoursin <n.decour...@foodpanda.com
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thank you very much, both suggestions are wonderful, and I will try
> >> them.
> >>>> Have a great day!
> >>>>
> >>>> Kind regards,
> >>>> Nick
> >>>>
> >>>> On 24 January 2017 at 19:46, Matthias J. Sax <matth...@confluent.io>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> If your data is already partitioned by key, you can save writing to a
> >>>>> topic by doing a dummy reduce instead:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> stream
> >>>>>  .groupByKey()
> >>>>>  .reduce(new Reducer() {
> >>>>>    V apply(V value1, V value2) {
> >>>>>      return value2;
> >>>>>    }
> >>>>>  },
> >>>>>  "yourStoreName");
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (replace V with your actuall value type)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Matthias
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 1/24/17 8:53 AM, Damian Guy wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Nick,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I guess there is some reason why you can't just build it as a table
> to
> >>>>>> begin with?
> >>>>>> There isn't a convenient method for doing this right now, but you
> >> could
> >>>>> do
> >>>>>> something like:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> stream.to("some-other-topic");
> >>>>>> builder.table("some-other-topic");
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Damian
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 at 16:32 Nick DeCoursin <
> >> n.decour...@foodpanda.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> How can I simply table a Kafka Stream? I have a Kafka Stream, and I
> >>>>> want to
> >>>>>>> create a table from it backed by a state store. The key of the
> stream
> >>>>> could
> >>>>>>> be the same as the table.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I've tried following examples, but it seems all examples use
> >> `groupBy`
> >>>>> or
> >>>>>>> `count` to convert `KStream`s into `KTable`s. Is there any other
> way?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thank you very much,
> >>>>>>> Nick DeCoursin
> >>>>>>>
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