It sounds like rocksdb *is* honoring your configs -- the max.open.files
config is an internal restriction that tells rocksdb how many open files it
is allowed to have, so if that's set to -1 (infinite) it won't ever try to
limit its open files and you may hit the OS limit.

Think of it this way: if you have 100 rocksdb instances and a OS limit of
500, you should set max.open.files to 5  to avoid hitting this limit
(assuming there are no other open files on the system, in reality you'd
want some extra room there)

On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 7:53 PM emailtokir...@gmail.com <
emailtokir...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 2019/06/28 23:29:16, John Roesler <j...@confluent.io> wrote:
> > Hey all,
> >
> > If you want to figure it out theoretically, if you print out the
> > topology description, you'll have some number of state stores listed
> > in there. The number of Rocks instances should just be
> > (#global_state_stores +
> > sum(#partitions_of_topic_per_local_state_store)) . The number of
> > stream threads isn't relevant here.
> >
> > You can also figure it out empirically: the first level of
> > subdirectories in the state dir are Tasks, and then within that, the
> > next level is Stores. You should see the store directory names match
> > up with the stores listed in the topology description. The number of
> > Store directories is exactly the number of RocksDB instances you have.
> >
> > There are also metrics corresponding to each of the state stores, so
> > you can compute it from what you find in the metrics.
> >
> > Hope that helps,
> > -john
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 6:46 AM Patrik Kleindl <pklei...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Kiran
> > > Without much research my guess would be "num_stream_threads *
> > > (#global_state_stores +
> sum(#partitions_of_topic_per_local_state_store))"
> > > So 10 stores (regardless if explicitly defined or implicitely because
> of
> > > some stateful operation) with 10 partitions each should result in 100
> > > Rocksdb instances if you are running at the default of
> num_stream_threads=1.
> > >
> > > As I wrote before, start with 100.
> > > If the error persists, half the number, if not, double it ;-) Repeat as
> > > needed.
> > >
> > > If you reach the single-digit-range and the error still shows up, start
> > > searching for any iterators over a store you might not have closed.
> > >
> > > br, Patrik
> > >
> > > On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 at 13:11, emailtokir...@gmail.com <
> > > emailtokir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2019/06/27 09:02:39, Patrik Kleindl <pklei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hello Kiran
> > > > >
> > > > > First, the value for maxOpenFiles is per RocksDB instance, and the
> number
> > > > > of those can get high if you have a lot of topic partitions etc.
> > > > > Check the directory (state dir) to see how many there are.
> > > > > Start with a low value (100) and see if that has some effect.
> > > > >
> > > > > Second, because I just found out, you should use
> > > > > BlockBasedTableConfig tableConfig = (BlockBasedTableConfig)
> > > > > options.tableFormatConfig();
> > > > >         tableConfig.setBlockCacheSize(100*1024*1024L);
> > > > >         tableConfig.setBlockSize(8*1024L);
> > > > > instead of creating a new object to prevent accidently messing up
> > > > > references.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope that helps
> > > > > best regards
> > > > > Patrik
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 at 10:46, emailtokir...@gmail.com <
> > > > > emailtokir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 2019/06/26 21:58:02, Patrik Kleindl <pklei...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Kiran
> > > > > > > You can use the RocksDBConfigSetter and pass
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > options.setMaxOpenFiles(100);
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > to all RocksDBs for the Streams application which limits how
> many are
> > > > > > > kept open at the same time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > best regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Patrik
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 16:14, emailtokir...@gmail.com <
> > > > > > > emailtokir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We are using Kafka streams DSL APIs for doing some counter
> > > > aggregations
> > > > > > > > (running on OpenJDK 11.0.2). Our topology has some 400 sub
> > > > topologies
> > > > > > & we
> > > > > > > > are using 8 partitions in source topic. When we start
> pumping more
> > > > > > load, we
> > > > > > > > start getting RockDBException stating "too many open files".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Here are the stack trace samples:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > Caused by: org.rocksdb.RocksDBException: while open a file
> for
> > > > lock:
> > > > > > > > PPPPPPPPPPP.1512000000/LOCK: Too many open files
> > > > > > > >         at org.rocksdb.RocksDB.open(Native Method)
> > > > > > > >         at org.rocksdb.RocksDB.open(RocksDB.java:235)
> > > > > > > >         at
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> org.apache.kafka.streams.state.internals.RocksDBStore.openDB(RocksDBStore.java:156)
> > > > > > > >         ... 24 common frames omitted
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Caused by:
> org.apache.kafka.streams.errors.ProcessorStateException:
> > > > > > Error
> > > > > > > > while executing flush from store XXXXXXXXXXX.1512000000
> > > > > > > >         at
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> org.apache.kafka.streams.state.internals.RocksDBStore.flushInternal(RocksDBStore.java:397)
> > > > > > > >         at
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> org.apache.kafka.streams.state.internals.RocksDBStore.flush(RocksDBStore.java:388)
> > > > > > > >         at
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> org.apache.kafka.streams.state.internals.Segments.flush(Segments.java:163)
> > > > > > > >         at
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> org.apache.kafka.streams.state.internals.RocksDBSegmentedBytesStore.flush(RocksDBSegmentedBytesStore.java:178)
> > > > > > > >         at
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> org.apache.kafka.streams.state.internals.WrappedStateStore$AbstractStateStore.flush(WrappedStateStore.java:85)
> > > > > > > >         at
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> org.apache.kafka.streams.state.internals.WrappedStateStore$AbstractStateStore.flush(WrappedStateStore.java:85)
> > > > > > > >         at
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> org.apache.kafka.streams.state.internals.CachingWindowStore.flush(CachingWindowStore.java:130)
> > > > > > > >         at
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> org.apache.kafka.streams.state.internals.MeteredWindowStore.flush(MeteredWindowStore.java:177)
> > > > > > > >         at
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> org.apache.kafka.streams.processor.internals.ProcessorStateManager.flush(ProcessorStateManager.java:217)
> > > > > > > >         ... 10 more
> > > > > > > > Caused by: org.rocksdb.RocksDBException: While open a file
> for
> > > > > > appending:
> > > > > > > > YYYYYYYYYYYYY.1512000000/000007.dbtmp: Too many open files
> > > > > > > >         at org.rocksdb.RocksDB.flush(Native Method)
> > > > > > > >         at org.rocksdb.RocksDB.flush(RocksDB.java:3401)
> > > > > > > >         at org.rocksdb.RocksDB.flush(RocksDB.java:3361)
> > > > > > > >         at
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> org.apache.kafka.streams.state.internals.RocksDBStore.flushInternal(RocksDBStore.java:395)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We tried increasing the open files limit at OS level to some
> decent
> > > > > > > > number.. but still no luck. Obviously we don't want to have
> > > > boundless
> > > > > > open
> > > > > > > > files..
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We also tried to play with commit interval(
> > > > kafka.commit.interval.ms)
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > cache size (kafka.cache.max.bytes.buffering) .. but no luck
> there
> > > > > > either.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > KAFKA-3904 talks about it.. but it was resolved long back..
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any other config tuning we have to do?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Appreciate any help in this regard!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > Kiran
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Patrik/All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for providing some valuable pointer!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I did that & it doesn't seems to work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here is how my custom config setter looks like:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > @Override
> > > > > >           public void setConfig(final String storeName, final
> Options
> > > > > > options, final Map<String, Object> configs) {
> > > > > >             // See #1 below.
> > > > > >             BlockBasedTableConfig tableConfig = new
> > > > > > org.rocksdb.BlockBasedTableConfig();
> > > > > >
> > > > > >             tableConfig.setBlockCacheSize(16 * 1024 * 1024L);
> > > > > >             // See #2 below.
> > > > > >             tableConfig.setBlockSize(16 * 1024L);
> > > > > >             // See #3 below.
> > > > > >             tableConfig.setCacheIndexAndFilterBlocks(false);
> > > > > >            //
> tableConfig.setPinL0FilterAndIndexBlocksInCache(true);
> > > > > >             options.setMaxOpenFiles(-1);
> > > > > >             options.setTableFormatConfig(tableConfig);
> > > > > >             // See #4 below.
> > > > > >             options.setMaxWriteBufferNumber(2);
> > > > > >           }
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > I tried many options with this:
> > > > > > 1. tableConfig.setCacheIndexAndFilterBlocks(true);  ----> as per
> docs (
> > > > > >
> > > >
> https://github.com/facebook/rocksdb/wiki/Memory-usage-in-RocksDB#indexes-and-filter-blocks
> > > > )
> > > > > > if we set to true, the max_open_files shouldn't play a role. But
> I was
> > > > > > still getting too many open files exception from Rocksdb
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. tableConfig.setCacheIndexAndFilterBlocks(true);
> > > > > > tableConfig.setPinL0FilterAndIndexBlocksInCache(true); ----> no
> luck;
> > > > same
> > > > > > exception
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3. tableConfig.setCacheIndexAndFilterBlocks(false);  and
> > > > > >  options.setMaxOpenFiles(50000);    ----->  This also resulted
> with
> > > > same
> > > > > > exception.. with java process having ~24K open files
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 4. tableConfig.setCacheIndexAndFilterBlocks(false);  and
> > > > > >  options.setMaxOpenFiles(-1);    ----->  This also resulted with
> same
> > > > > > exception.. with java process having ~24K ope files. As per the
> doc,
> > > > if we
> > > > > > set to -1, it means infinite and controlled by underlying OS
> limit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am using MacOS Mojave (10.14.4) and OpenJDK 11.0.2.  At OS
> level, I
> > > > have
> > > > > > bumped the open files limit to 1 million.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > $ ulimit -a
> > > > > > core file size          (blocks, -c) 0
> > > > > > data seg size           (kbytes, -d) unlimited
> > > > > > file size               (blocks, -f) unlimited
> > > > > > max locked memory       (kbytes, -l) unlimited
> > > > > > max memory size         (kbytes, -m) unlimited
> > > > > > open files                      (-n) 1000000
> > > > > > pipe size            (512 bytes, -p) 1
> > > > > > stack size              (kbytes, -s) 8192
> > > > > > cpu time               (seconds, -t) unlimited
> > > > > > max user processes              (-u) 1418
> > > > > > virtual memory          (kbytes, -v) unlimited
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am I missing some other config here?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Kiran
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Patrik,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for quick response!
> > > >
> > > > I just checked the state dir. It has total of 3152 sub folders and
> total
> > > > of 15451 files (within sub folders..).
> > > >
> > > > With this what should be the number that I should use?
> > > >
> > > > How many instances of rocksdb will be used? Any formula to determine
> that?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again,
> > > > Kiran
> > > >
> >
>
> Hi John/Patrik,
>
> Thanks for sharing some more insights!
>
> So we have ~3.2K state store directories (which means those many rocksdb
> instances.
>
> So when we tried with these config params:
> ------------------
> cache.index.and.filter.blocks=false
> max.open.files=-1
> block.cache.size=100* 1024 * 1024L
> block.size=8*1024L
> max.write.buffer.number=2
> ------------------
> We still got too many open files exception from rocksdb side. At that time
> the total open files on the VM were ~46K. At OS level we have increased the
> max open files limit to 1 million.
>
> As per above config, "max.open.files=-1"  it means infinite open files for
> rocksdb and it's controlled by OS open file limit (which is 1 million in
> our case). We are not able to understand why rocksdb is not honouring our
> config params?
>
> P.S: we will not go with "max.open.files=-1" in production.. we are just
> trying to understand how to overcome this exception by trying various
> combinations of config params.
>
> Are we missing some other key rocksdb configs here?
>
> Thanks,
> Kiran
>
>
>

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