Currently I apply bearerbox-sqlbox-smsbox and use mysql  as my dlr engine. On 
Delll R710 Quadcore 2.2 Intel Xeon 16GB RAM it usually reduce to 5GB available 
memory in just 6 days and must be restarted to gain more memory. The server 
only used by Kannel. My daily traffics for that server is only 800 thousands 
MT/day. 



sangprabv
sangpr...@gmail.com
http://www.petitiononline.com/froyo/


On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:53 PM, Alejandro Guerrieri wrote:

> Are you completely _sure_ that it's held by Kannel and not the underlying OS? 
> Linux doesn't free unused memory unless needed by other processes.
> 
> Also, if you have in-memory DLR's or a huge retry queue, it could consume 
> lots of memory.
> 
> Unless you get OOM errors, I wouldn't be concerned by the amount of memory 
> being used.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alex
> 
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 5:26 PM, sangprabv <sangpr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Regarding this performance benchmarking. I still got memory problem. Kannel 
> fails to release buffered or cached memory. Does anybody has tips to avoid 
> this problem? Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> sangprabv
> sangpr...@gmail.com
> http://www.petitiononline.com/froyo/
> 
> 
> On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:12 PM, Rene Kluwen wrote:
> 
>> Why don’t you try it on your own system. Test with a MyIsam table and with 
>> InnoDB.
>> It will be easy to determine which one works faster for you.
>>  
>> == Rene
>>  
>> From: users-boun...@kannel.org [mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org] On Behalf 
>> Of brett skinner
>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, 10 August, 2010 11:56
>> To: Alejandro Guerrieri
>> Cc: Users
>> Subject: Re: Kannel performance benchmarking
>>  
>> Thanks for your feedback.
>>  
>> Guess it is the age old tao of computer science. Space vs Time, always space 
>> vs time. :)
>>  
>> Regards,
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Alejandro Guerrieri 
>> <alejandro.guerri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Oh yes, I read that blog quite frequently :) There's a lot of stuff to say 
>> about optimizing InnoDB, but it's definitely off-topic here and wouldn't fit 
>> on a single email of course.
>>  
>> We've gone thru a series of optimization cycles on our platform and, with 
>> respect to Kannel, ended up using MyIsam for DLR's. We don't have any 
>> locking issues, the only detail is we need to be careful when expiring old 
>> entries to do it in small batches and not on peak hours.
>>  
>> For the rest of our applications, except for small and mostly read-only 
>> tables, we use InnoDB and while seems "slower" when you do a couple of 
>> requests, it's a _lot_ faster if you are under heavy traffic because of the 
>> row locking instead of table locking.
>>  
>> Anyway, there's no a one-size-fits-all solution and if you really need to 
>> sustain heavy traffic I'd recommend you do a lot of profiling and find the 
>> bottlenecks either on the DB and the rest of your platform.
>>  
>> Regards,
>>  
>> Alex
>>  
>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:15 AM, brett skinner <tatty.dishcl...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Hi Alex
>>  
>> That is why I have chosen Innodb for the tables we use for the application 
>> that surround Kannel. MyISAM definitely beat Innodb out the box but Innodb 
>> does seem to be better in terms of the issues you have pointed out. The 
>> other thing that I have read is that Innodb is incredibly slow with the 
>> stock standard configuration. I read through the following blog and followed 
>> their advice which increased its performance quite drastically.
>>  
>> http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2007/11/01/innodb-performance-optimization-basics/
>>  
>> If you have a moment you can give that a read. Or if you have any other good 
>> references please send them a long. I am still rather new to MySql. Thanks :)
>>  
>> Regards,
>>  
>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Alejandro Guerrieri 
>> <alejandro.guerri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well, if it weren't for the SELECT COUNT(*) slowness would be my preferred 
>> option here as well. Despite seeming "slower" at first (specially on small 
>> tables) InnoDB performs row-locking on index-based queries, which indeed 
>> improves things quite a bit on big tables with lots of simultaneous reads 
>> and writes.
>>  
>> Regards,
>>  
>> Alex
>>  
>> 2010/8/10 Nikos Balkanas <nbalka...@gmail.com>
>> Indeed. InnoDB is much slower overall compared to MyIsam. However, it has 
>> its use for some jobs (archive_logs, hot backups, etc.)
>> 
>> The figures I gave were sustained rates simulated with a 10000-SMS batch. 
>> Count was sufficient to reach sustainability and reproducibility, yet short 
>> enough to get results fast.
>> 
>> When i submitted fakesmpp, I also released similar data from a 64bit Solaris 
>> 10 server.
>> 
>> BR,
>> Nikos
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: alejandro.guerri...@gmail.com
>> To: brett skinner ; users-boun...@kannel.org ; us...@kannel. us...@kannel. 
>> Org
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:21 AM
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Kannel performance benchmarking
>> 
>> 
>> Brett,
>> 
>> The DLR engine uses SELECT COUNT(*) from the admin interface, which is 
>> painfully slow on InnoDB for moderately big tables.
>> 
>> While InnoDB would theoretically be the best option, MyIsam performs quite 
>> better in this case.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Alex
>> BlackBerry de movistar, allν donde estιs estα tu oficin@
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: brett skinner <tatty.dishcl...@gmail.com>
>> Sender: users-boun...@kannel.org
>> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:13:54 +0200
>> To: Users<users@kannel.org>
>> Subject: Re: Kannel performance benchmarking
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Nikos
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for the extra information. What was the motivation for using MyISAM? 
>> My reading lead me to believe that MyISAM was not that well suited for 
>> interleaved reads and writes due to table locking which is why I opted to 
>> use InnoDB. From what I assumed about how Kannel worked is that 
>> reading/writing to the DLR table would be interleaved. I may be quite badly 
>> mistaken and might perhaps need to switch to MyISAM as a few others have 
>> recommended.
>> 
>> 
>> In your opinion what should Kannel be able to handle sustained (assuming 
>> normal business hours)? And what should Kannel be able to burst to? I know 
>> some of these questions are a bit like how long is a piece of string but I 
>> really do value all and any of your feedback.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 2010/8/10 Nikos Balkanas <nbalka...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> Try valgrind in linux.
>> 
>> BR,
>> Nikos
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "sangprabv" <sangpr...@gmail.com>
>> To: "Nikos Balkanas" <nbalka...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: "brett skinner" <tatty.dishcl...@gmail.com>; "kannel users" 
>> <users@kannel.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:35 AM
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Kannel performance benchmarking
>> 
>> 
>> Yeah I understand that. But when the there is no traffic. Kannel doesn't 
>> release the cached or buffered memory it used.  Do you have any solution? 
>> What command to list down or trace the memory usage by Kannel? So maybe we 
>> can investigate which function or module in Kannel is eating the memory. 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> sangprabv
>> sangpr...@gmail.com
>> http://www.petitiononline.com/froyo/
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:19 PM, Nikos Balkanas wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> No memory problems. It is reasonable that kannel will use more memory in 
>> higher traffic, since all queues are in memory, as long as it drops to 
>> nominal levels once the traffic is gone.
>> 
>> BR,
>> Nikos
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: sangprabv
>> To: brett skinner
>> Cc: Nikos Balkanas ; kannel users
>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 5:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: Kannel performance benchmarking
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Nikos,
>> Do you experience memory problem? In my case Kannel is eating the memory on 
>> high load traffics. I always need to restart the box to get more memory. I 
>> even give 3 on /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches but still Kannel eat the memory :(
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> sangprabv
>> sangpr...@gmail.com
>> http://www.petitiononline.com/froyo/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 9, 2010, at 9:42 PM, brett skinner wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Nikos
>> 
>> Out of curiosity can you go into more detail regarding what hardware you 
>> were running and your setup for MySql? Were you using Innodb or MyIsam. If 
>> you were using Innodb did you make any other configuration changes to MySql 
>> to accommodate Innodb.
>> 
>> From the user guide it is implied that the bottle neck for Kannel is the 
>> number of messages that the SMSC can accommodate per second. Is this still 
>> the case?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 2010/8/8 Nikos Balkanas <nbalka...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have run some benchmarking for a client using fakesmpp. Using the default 
>> service for MO's I got:
>> 
>> MO's: 1400 SMS/s
>> MT + DLRs (internal): 747 SMS/s
>> MT + DLRs (MySql): 434 SMS/s
>> 
>> BR,
>> Nikos
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: ha...@aeon.pk
>> To: kannel users
>> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 4:22 PM
>> Subject: Kannel performance benchmarking
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> I am interested to know about the kannel performance benchmarking, 
>> especially in terms of speed (msgs/sec), MO or MT. I assume that multiple 
>> smsboxes does not have any effect over kannel performance, since the 
>> front-end talking to SMSC is the main bearerbox. What is the max speed that 
>> could be attained by kannel and/or bearerbox?
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Hamza
>>  
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