Thanks, but it doesn't mater.
It is probably the result that after copying I've manually edited the
statement to make it more clear:  to show that the dlr_url is non-url
unique string.

And your note is a little bit off-topic.
The subject is that no DLR's records appears in the sent_sms table.

> You have a quote mismatch in that INSERT statement.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dorian [mailto:doria...@o2.pl] 
> Sent: Thursday, 07 October, 2010 08:32
> To: Rene Kluwen
> Cc: 'Alejandro Guerrieri'; users@kannel.org
> Subject: Re: sms - dlr bounding
>
> Rene,
> Thanks a lot a lot for the advice.
> Recently I've found some time to test your idea.
> At the first glance it looked like great solution.
>
> I've used the following INSERT statement (php syntax)
> INSERT INTO send_sms (momt, sender, receiver, msgdata, sms_type,
> dlr_mask, dlr_url) VALUES ( 'MT', '8765', '".$phone_nr."', '".$txt."',
> 2, 31,'".$id);
>
> where $id contained unique id (but not url).
>
> For a moment it worked as expected. But now no DLRs are registered in
> the sms_sent table although I see the it is sent back from smsc.
> Any idea?
> I do not understand why for the first trials the DLRs has been stored
> into the table but now they are not.
>
> Dorian
>   
>> The thing that you might be looking for:
>>
>> If -instead of using smsbox- you use sqlbox to send messages, then you can 
>> set dlr-url to whatever you want. It doesn't necessarily have to be a http 
>> url.
>> After that, you get your DLR's in the sent_sms table with the value you 
>> passed as drl-url.
>>
>> But since sqlbox doesn't call any http requests, as opposed to smsbox it 
>> just stays there in the table with boxc_id the same as you defined as 
>> sqlbox-id.
>>
>> Judging from your emails, I think this is what you want.
>>
>> == Rene
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: users-boun...@kannel.org [mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org] On Behalf 
>> Of dorian
>> Sent: Friday, 17 September, 2010 11:33
>> To: Alejandro Guerrieri
>> Cc: users@kannel.org
>> Subject: Re: sms - dlr bounding
>>
>> Well. I know the difference between fork and pthread_create.
>>
>> Anyway the http client work (even if it is thread not a process) is
>> waste of time for me.
>> Additionally I am forced to have working http server also which also do
>> a silly work for me (taking CPU time and RAM).
>>
>> I am trying to find out the way to have dlr report but not to be forced
>> to run http server since dlr reply is handled with sqlbox and it is
>> enough for me.
>> (on condition that I am able to bound sms with dlr)
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> Dorian,
>>>
>>> Kannel uses threads. It doesn't fork.
>>>
>>> There's a _huge_ difference in terms of cost between a thread and fork.
>>>
>>> Using "exec" is a very bad idea in terms of performance and security.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:59 AM, dorian <doria...@o2.pl
>>> <mailto:doria...@o2.pl>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     1. See DEBUG line. Even if it is thread it takes time and RAM to
>>>     create,
>>>     the thread running take time preparing http request, my http server
>>>     waste time to handle the request etc.
>>>     2. I need dlr feedback
>>>     > On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 09:26, dorian wrote:
>>>     >
>>>     >> Right.
>>>     >> But for http connection the kannel's clients is forked (at least it
>>>     >> looks like according to the logs: 'DEBUG: HTTP: Creating
>>>     HTTPClient').
>>>     >> Such fork  is almost the same as exec'ing external process.
>>>     >>
>>>     >
>>>     > How do you know it is fork?
>>>     > It could be thread or even simple function call.
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >> So I prefer exec my script rather than kannel's http client.
>>>     This way
>>>     >> the are no resources consumed by http server and the time
>>>     needed for
>>>     >> http request compose and parse is saved.
>>>     >>
>>>     >> In case of sms reception I have a chance to do that - there is
>>>     "exec"
>>>     >> config keyword.
>>>     >> But dlr has to be handled via http.
>>>     >>
>>>     >> What is more - since sqlbox do "the database registration"
>>>     without my
>>>     >> intervention I do not need any drl handler.
>>>     >> But not to have errors in kannel log I am forced to use http
>>>     server.
>>>     >>
>>>     >> And having similar "exec" config parameter against dlr-url I
>>>     could try
>>>     >> to use dummy script like "/bin/false" or something like this
>>>     which for
>>>     >> sure would be faster.
>>>     >>
>>>     >
>>>     > Better solution could be not to request delivery report when sending
>>>     > message and then there is no need for dlr handling at all.
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >>> Hi,
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> The "exec" script is another process started each time and is more
>>>     >>> expensive than attempting to fetch a dlr-url. The http server,
>>>     >>> initially takes up some resources (memory) but it remains
>>>     constant and
>>>     >>> CPU utilization is overall lower.
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> That's the whole purpose of the dlr-url. To get your dlrs in a
>>>     databse
>>>     >>> in the format that you want.
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> BR,
>>>     >>> Nikos
>>>     >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "dorian" <doria...@o2.pl
>>>     <mailto:doria...@o2.pl>>
>>>     >>> To: "Alvaro Cornejo" <cornejo.alv...@gmail.com
>>>     <mailto:cornejo.alv...@gmail.com>>
>>>     >>> Cc: <users@kannel.org <mailto:users@kannel.org>>
>>>     >>> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:06 AM
>>>     >>> Subject: Re: sms - dlr bounding
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> There is nothing magical in sqlbox.
>>>     >>> It sits between bearerbox and smsbox and it just records data
>>>     in the
>>>     >>> database.
>>>     >>> Each message = 1 record in the table independetly if the
>>>     message is
>>>     >>> outgoing sms (MT) , incoming sms (MO) or delivery report.
>>>     >>> It is nice and simple way to have a full history of communication.
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> So I do not need any extra dlr message handling - a record in the
>>>     >>> database if enough for me.
>>>     >>> But only on condition that it would be possible to recognize
>>>     which dlr
>>>     >>> record corresponds to the record describing sent sms.
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> On the other hand the method with dlr-url _requires_ the
>>>     existence of
>>>     >>> the url if I want to avoid stupid log entries.
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> What is more kannel unnecessarily runs the http client to make
>>>     dlr-url
>>>     >>> fetch. It is waste of CPU time RAM usage etc.
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> In case of sms receiving there is a "exec" entry (sms-service)
>>>     which
>>>     >>> allows me to forget about http protocol and get all data
>>>     directly with
>>>     >>> my shell script.
>>>     >>> This way I would not need any working http server (which takes
>>>     next
>>>     >>> resourses) but dlr-url requires such server.
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>>> How it works is, once kannel receives a dlr, it matches
>>>     against its
>>>     >>>> dlr database, if got a macth, it then calls your own dlr-url to
>>>     >>>> trigger your own application so you can reccord the status and do
>>>     >>>> whatever you want with it. If the dlr is for a final status, the
>>>     >>>> kannel deletes that dlr reccord.
>>>     >>>>
>>>     >>>> With sqlbox, I don't know how dlrs exactly works. Have you
>>>     tried to
>>>     >>>> put in your dlr-url your own id only? does kannel complains
>>>     that it is
>>>     >>>> not a valid url ?
>>>     >>>>
>>>     >>>> Regards
>>>     >>>>
>>>     
>>> |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
>>>     >>>>
>>>     >>>> Envνe y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde
>>>     cualquier
>>>     >>>> celular y Nextel
>>>     >>>> en el Perϊ, Mιxico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2
>>>     vias via
>>>     >>>> SMS y GPRS online
>>>     >>>>               Visitenos en www.perusms.NET
>>>     <http://www.perusms.NET> www.smsglobal.com.mx
>>>     <http://www.smsglobal.com.mx> y
>>>     >>>> www.pravcom.com <http://www.pravcom.com>
>>>     >>>>
>>>     >>>>
>>>     >>>>
>>>     >>>> 2010/9/16 dorian <doria...@o2.pl <mailto:doria...@o2.pl>>:
>>>     >>>>
>>>     >>>>
>>>     >>>>> Thanks a lot for reply.
>>>     >>>>>
>>>     >>>>> Using the sqlbox I see now the MT and DLR record in the
>>>     database which
>>>     >>>>> has the same 'dlr_url' field with my id and it looks like the
>>>     >>>>> problem is
>>>     >>>>> solved.
>>>     >>>>>
>>>     >>>>> Anyway is it the only solution?
>>>     >>>>>
>>>     >>>>> The 'dlr_url' field contains the whole http link which for me is
>>>     >>>>> completely useless and is needlessly long as the only sms id is
>>>     >>>>> interesting.
>>>     >>>>>
>>>     >>>>> Next subject is that having database I do not need to fire
>>>     up any http
>>>     >>>>> url when delivery report is sent back. It waste of CPU time
>>>     only.
>>>     >>>>> So I am looking for something which could give me
>>>     same/similar results
>>>     >>>>> in database without necessity of creating dlr http site Such
>>>     site is
>>>     >>>>> completely useless for me.
>>>     >>>>>
>>>     >>>>>
>>>     >>>>>
>>>     >>>>>
>>>     >>>>>
>>>     >>>>>> you need to add your own different id to each of your
>>>     messages in the
>>>     >>>>>> dlr-url you send with the message.
>>>     >>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>
>>>     
>>> |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
>>>     >>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>> Envνe y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y
>>>     desde cualquier
>>>     >>>>>> celular y Nextel
>>>     >>>>>> en el Perϊ, Mιxico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones
>>>     2 vias via
>>>     >>>>>> SMS y GPRS online
>>>     >>>>>>               Visitenos en www.perusms.NET
>>>     <http://www.perusms.NET> www.smsglobal.com.mx
>>>     <http://www.smsglobal.com.mx> y
>>>     >>>>>> www.pravcom.com <http://www.pravcom.com>
>>>     >>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>> 2010/9/16 dorian <doria...@o2.pl <mailto:doria...@o2.pl>>:
>>>     >>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>> Let's assume that I am sending 3 sms'es (MTs) to switched off
>>>     >>>>>>> terminal.
>>>     >>>>>>> Next the terminal is switched on.
>>>     >>>>>>> Let's assume the only 2 of them are delivered.
>>>     >>>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>> The (maybe stupid) question is:
>>>     >>>>>>> how to find out which dlr report refers to which sms sent?
>>>     >>>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>> I cannot find a "key" which could be used to "bind" dlr report
>>>     >>>>>>> with sms
>>>     >>>>>>> as a result I don't know how to detect which sms has been
>>>     discarded.
>>>     >>>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>> I am using bearerbox-sqlbox-smsbox with CIMD2 smsc.
>>>     >>>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>> Regards
>>>     >>>>>>> Dorian
>>>     >>>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>>>
>>>     >>>>
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>
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