Also: If you are just enabling dlr = 8 and not dlr = 1, then it is not going
to take any bandwidth with your provider.

== Rene

-----Original Message-----
From: Ghulam Mustafa /HQ/NW/Network Engineer [mailto:g.must...@nadra.gov.pk]

Sent: dinsdag 12 november 2013 16:53
To: ha...@aeon.pk; Rene Kluwen
Cc: kannel users
Subject: RE: SQLBOX working - LIFO or FIFO

20k SMS will take few seconds then why worry about the sequence since DLR is
not available and operator is not going to obey your sequnce/order at all.


Sent from Samsung Mobile


-------- Original message --------
From: ha...@aeon.pk
Date:12/11/2013 8:03 PM (GMT+05:00)
To: Rene Kluwen
Cc: kannel users
Subject: Re: SQLBOX working - LIFO or FIFO

Yup, I have tried this already. But enabling DLR with remote SMSC comes at
the cost of reducing the overall SMS sending speed by half. Meaning, if I
have a bandwidth of 100 SMS/sec, enabling DLR will actually give me 50
SMS/sec effective speed, with remaining speed being taken by DLRs.
Additionally, DLR handling will put more load on my DB, as well as
additional application DB reads (for checking status 8). On paper, it seems
like more performance sacrifice than the gain.


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Rene Kluwen
<rene.klu...@chimit.nl<mailto:rene.klu...@chimit.nl>> wrote:
If you are going to fiddle with your php code anyhow.
A possible solution is to send message 2 whenever the dlr with status = 8
arrives.
You don't need a sleep then and you will be sure that the message has been
sent out before sending the next one.

Just an idea.

== Rene


From: ha...@aeon.pk<mailto:ha...@aeon.pk>
[mailto:ha...@aeon.pk<mailto:ha...@aeon.pk>]
Sent: dinsdag 12 november 2013 15:51
To: Rene Kluwen
Cc: spameden; kannel users

Subject: Re: SQLBOX working - LIFO or FIFO

This is OK if SMSC does the re-ordering for congestion or some other
reasons. But my concern is that messages should at least leave bbox in the
same order by which they left the application.

Since kannel is not giving me a proper method to sequence the messages, I am
forced to use SLEEP method in PHP programming. It is hanging my server
horribly in the presence of big traffic, choking both HTTP web server
connections as well as backend database. I would be happy to find some/any
method to maintain the sequence of msgs in kannel in FIFO order.

On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Rene Kluwen
<rene.klu...@chimit.nl<mailto:rene.klu...@chimit.nl>> wrote:
But having said the below, sms messages are not guaranteed to arrive in a
particular order.
The remote smsc may still send out message 2 first, even when they received
message 1 first.

From: users
[mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org<mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org>] On Behalf
Of Rene Kluwen
Sent: dinsdag 12 november 2013 15:35
To: ha...@aeon.pk<mailto:ha...@aeon.pk>; 'spameden'
Cc: 'kannel users'
Subject: RE: SQLBOX working - LIFO or FIFO

There's a 'priority' field in the Msg structure.
I think it serves for the purpose that you want to.
Just it's you cannot set it in the send_sms table. Not sure why, but
probably the field was added later.
It shouldn't be difficult to add though if anyone wants to send in a patch.

== Rene

From: users [mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org] On Behalf Of
ha...@aeon.pk<mailto:ha...@aeon.pk>
Sent: dinsdag 12 november 2013 15:28
To: spameden
Cc: kannel users
Subject: Re: SQLBOX working - LIFO or FIFO

Actually, if my understanding is correct (i.e. SQLBOX is already doing the
right thing by giving messages in FIFO order to bbox, but bbox is shuffling
the outgoing messages from within its buffer), then there is no point of
adding priority column.

What do you say?

On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:28 PM, spameden
<spame...@gmail.com<mailto:spame...@gmail.com>> wrote:
For priority I'd suggest adding a column called priority (typically
int(3) integer between 0 and 999) and doing ORDER by that column.

Do not forget to add an index as well or it might slow things down!

2013/11/12 ha...@aeon.pk<mailto:ha...@aeon.pk>
<ha...@aeon.pk<mailto:ha...@aeon.pk>>:
> Hi,
>
> Many thanks. I tried and tested it. It works fine for small chunks of 
> data (I can see SMS going out of bbox in a sequence they were entered 
> in send_sms table). However, for large amount of data (e.g. I sent a 
> bulk of 20k SMS via SQLBOX), it does not follow the same rule. Is it 
> bearerbox which shuffles the order of the SMS present in its buffer 
> (not SQLBOX)? Any thoughts/experiences?
>
> Is there any parameter tweak in send_sms by which I could raise the 
> priority of some SMS higher than others?
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:23 PM, spameden
<spame...@gmail.com<mailto:spame...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes you can do this.
>>
>> Just alter gw/mysql_sqlbox.h and edit
>>
>> #define SQLBOX_MYSQL_SELECT_QUERY
>>
>> add there ORDER by sql_id ASC :)
>>
>> 2013/11/11 ha...@aeon.pk<mailto:ha...@aeon.pk>
<ha...@aeon.pk<mailto:ha...@aeon.pk>>:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Does SQLBOX work in LIFO or FIFO order? For me, it's working as 
>> > LIFO which is bad if I intend to send sequential message (message 1 
>> > needs to go first, but since message 2 comes later, it goes out 
>> > first).
>> >
>> > Is there a way to make it operate in FIFO sequence, like ID'ing the 
>> > messages or something?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Hamza
>
>






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