I don't use ORM and I think I'm better without it. I tried a couple of times
hibernate when programming in Java. But after a lot of work to setup and
configure, when I was going to actually use the thing, I got I little stuck
by its limitation.

And I don't think raw SQL take so much time to justify the use of an ORM.
But as Felix said, there is other pros to justify its use.

So, since I had never tried any ORM in PHP I'm curious to give it a chance.

What ORM do you recommend? Propel or Doctrine?

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Michal <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I recently discovered that use of an ORM is *not* universally
> recommended, and some people seem quite against. I wonder, what are
> the opinions of other Agavi Users (/Developers)?
>
> Michal.
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