Hopefully, this will put this thread to a rest. I went back and did a total reset on my 5R, then went into Chirp, and downloaded the radio into it. Deleted the two frequencies that were there, and repopulated the spreadsheet with 8 new frequencies, with the tones and the splits (and names, although the ‘Fengs don’t display them).
Saved the sheet, and uploaded it to the radio. I then quick-keyed each channel (0-7), and noted that all offsets were correct. I did NOT attempt to look at the accompanying tone settings, as I now believe doing so somehow “corrupted” the settings by trying to access them manually. I then downloaded the radio again, which created a new sheet, and all channel settings were correct. So I reset my BF-F8, copied and pasted my 5R settings into the BF sheet, and uploaded THAT to the radio. Double-checked every channel the same way, and all channels worked. Then downloaded the radio again to make sure all channels were correct. WHEW! All I can say is that, if I’m going to use Chirp, I need to keep my fingers off the keypad if I’m in Channel mode. I still can’t figure what I did to screw things up, but I’m a happy camper now! Thanks to y’all for the patience you had with me. This old dog can still learn a few new tricks. Chirp rules!😎 BTW, I didn’t notice, but is there a Chirp setting for my Wouxun quad-bander yet? -= Gary =- On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 15:23 larry louree via Users < [email protected]> wrote: > I've got four brand X UHF radios, and five or six Baofeng radios in my > collection. Because I use CHIRP, I can easily make sure that all of my > radios are configured the same way, which makes it much easier when you > hand one to a family member and tell them "go to Channel 15". I don't have > to share a bunch of info to them, CHIRP has done all of the hard work. I > think these are 3 or 4 different programs to set these radios up, but I > can cut and paste the channel set ups between each of the radios and they > are all set to the same basic set up. I couldn't do that without CHIRP. > Once you get the connection through the driver set up (I'm on a Microsoft > program), it works really well. Sometimes I have to try and connect to > them once or twice, but I've had very limited issues. > > I'm a confirmed CHIRP user. Thanks to all that do the hard work to keep it > working so well. > > Larry > > WRWH885 > Larry Louree, PMP > Problem Solver > Palmetto, Florida 34221 > cell: 407-697-1869 > > > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 12:53 PM <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Send Users mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > > body 'help' to > > [email protected] > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [email protected] > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Users digest..." > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Two hosed Baofengs (Jeffrey Vian) > > 2. Re: Two hosed Baofengs (Pedja YT9TP) > > 3. Re: Two hosed Baofengs (Ken Hansen) > > 4. Re: Two hosed Baofengs (Christopher Knowles) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 12:21:33 -0500 > > From: Jeffrey Vian <[email protected]> > > Subject: [users] Re: Two hosed Baofengs > > To: CHIRP users list <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: > > < > > ca+hwpzdecqqqha1tf_9lvevtxfx4+kysotvghinj4z-ubyw...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > Chirp allows programming RX freq, TX freq, shift (+-), and tone for > > repeaters then when uploaded it saves all the required data. This is > done > > in a spreadsheet format so it is easily done by channel (and also allows > > adding a text name for display if you choose). Different radios require > a > > slightly different format of the data entered. > > > > Baofeng does not use ARS so both frequencies must be entered in the > proper > > sequence when doing so manually. Most other brands use ARS so the shift > > (+-) may not even be required. > > > > Doing manual programming of a Baofeng is a multi step process for each > > channel programmed, so quickly becomes an odious task when programming > more > > than one channel. Chirp removes the many repeated keyboard strokes and > > allows entering the data and reviewing it on screen then a single upload > > programs all the memory channels at once. > > > > To me, chirp is a lifesaver on all my radios that it supports. > > > > To Steve, N1XNX > > I think that chirp now has at least a beta driver for the FTM-6000 radio. > > I had submitted a request when I got mine just after they were released > and > > recently got notice that the beta driver was available. I also have the > > RTSystems programming software for it. > > > > Jeff > > KI7GJG > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 9:35 AM Gary via Users < > > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > After much deliberation, I have to ask an honest question: what is the > > > purpose of Chirp? To be fair, all I have been using it for is my 2 > > > Baofengs. I have a Wouxun KG-Q10H, but use its own programming software > > so > > > far because Chirp hasn’t picked it up yet. But if hooking up my ‘Fengs > to > > > Chirp does nothing more than populate a channel list with freqs, or > > change > > > the messages, maybe you can explain what Chirp really does, what it’s > > > useful for. What are memories for if they can’t be programmed with > Chirp? > > > Why are the other settings there? > > > > > > It seems to me that, at least with Baofengs, Chirp is only useful for > > > loading the radio with a list of downloaded repeaters…after that, each > > > channel has to be manually “tuned” in VFO mode in order to process the > > tone > > > and split, at least. The memory list is just there for look-up. Am I > > > missing something here? > > > > > > And the radios themselves seem to forget, or change even the manual > > > settings. I have no idea on how to make individual frequency settings > > stay > > > after programming them. In Memory mode, in VFO mode, nothing stays as > it > > > was set. > > > > > > I guess it’s time to throw these junkers in the trash and actually > spend > > > some $$ on a real radio. > > > > > > 73, > > > -= N4YVN =- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jim Unroe via Users <[email protected]> > > > Sent: June 11, 2024 19:45 > > > To: CHIRP users list <[email protected]> > > > Cc: Jim Unroe <[email protected]> > > > Subject: [users] Re: Two hosed Baofengs > > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 2024, at 12:42 PM, Gary <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have two ‘Fengs, a GT-5R and a BF-F9 V2+. I have programmed > both > > > > > successfully several times, and decided to add another local > > > > > repeater to both lists. I have included a screen shot of the last > > > > > attempt on the BF-F9. > > > > > I had just updated your software, and added the W3EPE repeater to > > > > > the list (which correctly shows every entry), saved and uploaded it > > to > > > > > the radio. > > > > > > > > > > > > After disconnecting from Chirp, I attempted to access the > repeater > > > > > (which is very close), and it failed. So I went into the radio > menu, > > > > > and went to item #25 Offset. It was set to 000.000. Supposed to be > > > > > -5.0Mhz. So I manually set in on the keypad and exited. Tried the > > > > > repeater again - no joy. Checked the offset - 000.000. Decided to > > > > > try the offset itself - 444.375. No repeater, offset reset to 0. > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked several other freqs on the list - list says there is one, > > > > > > radio > > > > > shows 0. Uh-oh! Grabbed my GT-5R, and downloaded it to Chirp. Then > > > > > disconnected and tried several repeaters. All worked. Used the > radio > > > > > menu, and the offsets were there. So I added the new repeater to > > > > > that list and uploaded the list to the radio. Now none of the > > > > > repeaters work, and manually checking the radio, all offsets have > > > > > been reset to 0. They’re correct on the Chirp list, but the radio > > > > > (neither radio) doesn’t receive the offset data, for some reason. > > > > > AND - I can no longer manually set the offset from the radio > > > > > keyboard. As soon as I exit the menu the offset returns to 0. Both > > > > > radios are now like this. I reset the BF-F9 twice and tried > > > > > reprogramming it, with no success. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any idea what’s happening here? Chirp was working until the last > > > > > > update, > > > > > and now I can’t even manually set these offsets… > > > > > > > > > > > > TIA,<IMG_0067.jpg> > > > > > > > > > > > > -= Gary =- > > > > > > CHIRP is working fine. You just don't yet understand how these radios > > work. > > > > > > These radios do not use or store 'offsets' for programmed channels. > > > Repeaters use 2 frequencies. In input frequency that it listens to and > an > > > output frequency that it transmits on. In your example... > > > > > > Repeater input frequency: 449.375 > > > Repeater output frequency: 444.375 > > > > > > Then for anyone to access the repeater, their radio has to use the same > > > frequencies in the opposite role... > > > > > > User input frequency: 444.375 > > > User output frequency: 449.375 > > > > > > That's it. No offset or shift direction required. > > > > > > So when a memory channel is programmed in your radio via the keypad or > by > > > using programming software from Baofeng or CHIRP, the radio is sent the > > RX > > > frequency and the TX frequency. > > > > > > Because using the 444.375+ shorthand is a convenient way for hams to > > convey > > > the frequency pair used by the repeater, CHIRP allows the user to enter > > it > > > using this notation. But then in the background CHIRP that the 3 pieces > > of > > > info (RX frequency, shift direction and offset) to calculate the actual > > TX > > > frequency and stores that in the 'image' file because that is what the > > > radio > > > uses to operate in MR (channel) mode. > > > > > > It is for this reason that menu 25 (SFT-D) and menu 26 (OFFSET) have no > > > purpose and do not function in MR mode. This is also why whenever the > TX > > > frequency and RX frequency of a programmed channel are not the same (as > > > would be the case for a repeater, odd-split, cross-band or TX disabled > > > channel), the upper status display area shows a "+-" symbol. > > > > > > If you set the MDF (Memory Display Format) of the currently selected > > > display > > > line to FREQ, you will see the RX frequency in the display. > > > Then if you tap the [*] key to put the radio into "reverse" mode (or > > press > > > the PTT button to transmit), you will see the display change to the TX > > > frequency. Tapping the [*] key a second time (or releasing the PTT > > button) > > > will return the display back to the RX frequency. > > > > > > It is only in VFO (frequency) mode that the SFT-D and OFFSET menus > have a > > > purpose and function. It is only in this mode that the individual "+" > and > > > "-" symbols will be seen. > > > > > > To find out what menus do not function in MR mode, consult my detailed > > menu > > > reference for the BF-F8HP. > > > https://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_MenuDef.php > > > > > > Jim KC9HI > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Users mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > > > > https://lists.chirpmyradio.com/postorius/lists/users.lists.chirpmyradio.com > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to [email protected] > > > To report this email as off-topic, please email > > > [email protected] > > > List archives: > > > > > > > > > https://lists.chirpmyradio.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Users mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > > > > https://lists.chirpmyradio.com/postorius/lists/users.lists.chirpmyradio.com > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to [email protected] > > > To report this email as off-topic, please email > > > [email protected] > > > List archives: > > > > > > https://lists.chirpmyradio.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 11:46:34 +0200 > > From: Pedja YT9TP <[email protected]> > > Subject: [users] Re: Two hosed Baofengs > > To: Gary via Users <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > > > > > On 19.6.2024. 16:16, Gary via Users wrote: > > > After much deliberation, I have to ask an honest question: what is the > > > purpose of Chirp? > > It is much easier to initially program radio using Chirp. All you have > > to do is to find list of frequencies you need and with some copy and > > paste prepare them for the radio. > > > > It also helps if you want to add new programed frequencies or even > > rearrange existing or reconfigure radio. > > > > And you may have more radios, maybe even different models or brands. > > Setting them all up manually is really tedious. Chirp makes it done in > > few clicks. > > > > -- > > 73 de Pedja YT9TP > > > > -- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > www.avast.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 10:58:30 -0500 > > From: Ken Hansen <[email protected]> > > Subject: [users] Re: Two hosed Baofengs > > To: CHIRP users list <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Gary, > > > > I'm not sure what's going on with your particular setup, but CHIRP allows > > countless thousands of happy users to successfully program their radios > > from a wide variety of manufacturers. > > > > Jim's response to your earlier email described how Baofengs operate > inside > > the radio, and how CHIRP takes the users inputs from its spreadsheet > > interface and properly populates the radio. > > > > If you take your GT-5R and read its current contents into CHIRP, are the > > channels explained directly or not? > > > > If you save that data off to your HD, then create a brand new setup, > > importing from repeaterbook or manually entering several repeater > > frequencies into CHIRP then writing them to the radio, do they > display/work > > as you expect in the radio? > > > > Assuming your radio is properly programmed, the average Baofeng has > decent > > range (handful of miles) to a repeater when the HT is on the OEM antenna. > > If you upgrade to a better antenna (say a SignalStik or a Diamond/Nagoya > > antenna) you should have better luck hitting repeaters a bit further out > > compared to the OEM antenna. > > > > In my experience, Baofengs are good for nearby repeaters and allstar > > nodes, but quite challenging to use simplex (no repeater) in an urban > area > > (I learned this at a recent parade where the team decided to try 2m > > simplex, and I couldn't hear most of the stations along the parade from > my > > parade route location). > > > > Other, major brand, HTs will undoubtedly perform better, but most HTs > come > > with antennas designed to fit in the box, not to maximize the performance > > of the radio in the box. > > > > Good luck, > > > > Ken, N2VIP > > > > > On Jun 19, 2024, at 09:36, Gary via Users < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > After much deliberation, I have to ask an honest question: what is the > > > purpose of Chirp? To be fair, all I have been using it for is my 2 > > > Baofengs. I have a Wouxun KG-Q10H, but use its own programming software > > so > > > far because Chirp hasn’t picked it up yet. But if hooking up my ‘Fengs > to > > > Chirp does nothing more than populate a channel list with freqs, or > > change > > > the messages, maybe you can explain what Chirp really does, what it’s > > > useful for. What are memories for if they can’t be programmed with > Chirp? > > > Why are the other settings there? > > > > > > It seems to me that, at least with Baofengs, Chirp is only useful for > > > loading the radio with a list of downloaded repeaters…after that, each > > > channel has to be manually “tuned” in VFO mode in order to process the > > tone > > > and split, at least. The memory list is just there for look-up. Am I > > > missing something here? > > > > > > And the radios themselves seem to forget, or change even the manual > > > settings. I have no idea on how to make individual frequency settings > > stay > > > after programming them. In Memory mode, in VFO mode, nothing stays as > it > > > was set. > > > > > > I guess it’s time to throw these junkers in the trash and actually > spend > > > some $$ on a real radio. > > > > > > 73, > > > -= N4YVN =- > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 12:49:37 -0400 > > From: Christopher Knowles <[email protected]> > > Subject: [users] Re: Two hosed Baofengs > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > > > I have religiously used CHIRP on my HTs (all Baofeng (5-watt, > > 8-watt, and 10-watt)) since I got my Technician license in May 2018 at > > the age of 68. I got my General in July and my Extra in October. I > > also got my Volunteer Examiner certification in October. After my HTs, > > I bought a 25-watt Lexien "mobile" as my base station and then moved up > > to a 50-watt BTECH UV-50X2 mobile. There are features in some of these > > radios that can, for all intents and purposes, only be accessed with > > CHIRP. It's the greatest! > > > > 73s, > > > > Christopher Knowles, WD1E > > > > > > On 6/20/2024 11:58 AM, Ken Hansen via Users wrote: > > > Gary, > > > > > > I'm not sure what's going on with your particular setup, but CHIRP > > allows countless thousands of happy users to successfully program their > > radios from a wide variety of manufacturers. > > > > > > Jim's response to your earlier email described how Baofengs operate > > inside the radio, and how CHIRP takes the users inputs from its > spreadsheet > > interface and properly populates the radio. > > > > > > If you take your GT-5R and read its current contents into CHIRP, are > the > > channels explained directly or not? > > > > > > If you save that data off to your HD, then create a brand new setup, > > importing from repeaterbook or manually entering several repeater > > frequencies into CHIRP then writing them to the radio, do they > display/work > > as you expect in the radio? > > > > > > Assuming your radio is properly programmed, the average Baofeng has > > decent range (handful of miles) to a repeater when the HT is on the OEM > > antenna. If you upgrade to a better antenna (say a SignalStik or a > > Diamond/Nagoya antenna) you should have better luck hitting repeaters a > bit > > further out compared to the OEM antenna. > > > > > > In my experience, Baofengs are good for nearby repeaters and allstar > > nodes, but quite challenging to use simplex (no repeater) in an urban > area > > (I learned this at a recent parade where the team decided to try 2m > > simplex, and I couldn't hear most of the stations along the parade from > my > > parade route location). > > > > > > Other, major brand, HTs will undoubtedly perform better, but most HTs > > come with antennas designed to fit in the box, not to maximize the > > performance of the radio in the box. > > > > > > Good luck, > > > > > > Ken, N2VIP > > > > > >> On Jun 19, 2024, at 09:36, Gary via Users < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> After much deliberation, I have to ask an honest question: what is the > > >> purpose of Chirp? To be fair, all I have been using it for is my 2 > > >> Baofengs. I have a Wouxun KG-Q10H, but use its own programming > software > > so > > >> far because Chirp hasn’t picked it up yet. But if hooking up my ‘Fengs > > to > > >> Chirp does nothing more than populate a channel list with freqs, or > > change > > >> the messages, maybe you can explain what Chirp really does, what it’s > > >> useful for. What are memories for if they can’t be programmed with > > Chirp? > > >> Why are the other settings there? > > >> > > >> It seems to me that, at least with Baofengs, Chirp is only useful for > > >> loading the radio with a list of downloaded repeaters…after that, each > > >> channel has to be manually “tuned” in VFO mode in order to process the > > tone > > >> and split, at least. The memory list is just there for look-up. Am I > > >> missing something here? > > >> > > >> And the radios themselves seem to forget, or change even the manual > > >> settings. I have no idea on how to make individual frequency settings > > stay > > >> after programming them. In Memory mode, in VFO mode, nothing stays as > it > > >> was set. > > >> > > >> I guess it’s time to throw these junkers in the trash and actually > spend > > >> some $$ on a real radio. > > >> > > >> 73, > > >> -= N4YVN =- > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Users mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > > > > https://lists.chirpmyradio.com/postorius/lists/users.lists.chirpmyradio.com > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to [email protected] > > > To report this email as off-topic, please email > > [email protected] > > > List archives: > > > https://lists.chirpmyradio.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > > > -- > > Christopher Allan Knowles, MPA > > P.O. 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