On 03/20/2016 12:37 PM, Greg Woods wrote:

On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 11:37 AM, jd1008 <jd1...@gmail.com <mailto:jd1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    think I will soon have to change the OS'es on my machines.


Good luck with that. Even Debian has gone to systemd. It will be increasingly hard to run any kind of modern Linux distro while avoiding systemd.

--Greg




I opine that this is the type of stuff that will kill linux.
Why? because it makes it extremely difficult to admin to suit users' s needs and requirements,
and requires ordinary users to be like savvy designers
and developers of the system (in it's most current incarnation) in order to administer it.

Many on this list might recall that one of the reasons why windows
won over *nix and *nux is because the *nuxes and *nixes
became largely different beasts with very different administrative
tools and interfaces, even programming interfaces and programming tools,
and thus governments, corporations and schools in general would have none of that!

And thus, the biggest users of windows are governments (national and local),
corporations, institutions and schools.
Because things largely worked the same for many years, thus
not requiring the users to learn new tricks in order to admin their machines.
Even win2k users quickly learn how to admin win10 just by browsing the
GUI interfaces.

I am not saying windows is a better OS. Just decrying the terrible changes
and totally unnecessary complications that have been the brain farts of
people who want to mystify the system and to diminish or make difficult, or
completely remove user control.

WHAT HAPPENNED to KISS???

It used to the rallying cry of educators.

What Linux Torvalds created ( after learning how Unix was designed by studying FreeBSD source code),
has become a monster that breaks easily, too complex to manage, ...etc.

I do not expect anyone (on this list at least) to agree with this - and it matters not.

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