On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 5:59 PM Jon LaBadie <jo...@jgcomp.com> wrote:

> On Thu, May 09, 2024 at 03:45:54PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> >On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 3:14 PM Tom Horsley <horsley1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 9 May 2024 19:15:20 +0100
> >> Barry Scott wrote:
> >>
> >> >        All options are configured in the [Journal] section:
> >>
> >> Yep, but it is concatenating all the different bits and pieces
> >> it picks up from the journald.conf.d directory, so is the [Journal]
> >> in the default file enough to imply [Journal] for all the pieces
> >> it picks up from the directory? I mean, what if [Journal] means
> >> "Forget everything, we're starting journal options now"? The last
> >> thing you'd want to do is put in a [Journal] line in that case and
> >> forget all the previous settings :-).
> >>
> >> [Train of thought like this is what happens when a computer programmer
> >> tries to read an ambiguous manual].
> >>
> >
> >When it comes to configuration using the .d/ directories, I believe it is
> a
> >"sticky" scheme. The first time the option is set, it becomes sticky and
> it
> >is not overridden later. That's why applications read .d/ configuration
> >files first (and in a deterministic order, like 10-*.conf before 50-*.conf
> >files), and then fallback to the package's or maintainer's configuration
> >options for missing options.
>
> "journald.conf(5) describes it differently.
> Below I've broken up a single paragraph from that manpage.
>
>    In addition to the "main" configuration file, drop-in configuration
> snippets
>    are read from /usr/lib/systemd/*.conf.d/,
> /usr/local/lib/systemd/*.conf.d/,
>    and /etc/systemd/*.conf.d/.  Those drop-ins have higher precedence and
>    override the main configuration file.
>
> So even if a line in the "main" config file is uncommentted, it value is
> not "sticky".
>
>    Files in the *.conf.d/ configuration subdirectories are sorted by their
>    filename in lexicographic order, regardless of in which of the
>    subdirectories they reside.
>
> So with multiple drop-in config files, their name, not directory
> location, determines the order read.
>
>    When multiple files specify the same option, for options which accept
>    just a single value, the entry in the file sorted last takes precedence,
>
> So no option setting is sticky, it is last setting read rules.
>
>    and for options which accept a list of values, entries are collected
>    as they occur in the sorted files.
>

My bad, I stand corrected.

Jeff
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