On Tue Aug19'25 09:50:54PM, Community Support for Fedora Users wrote:
> From: Ranjan Maitra via users <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2025 21:50:54 -0500
> To: Community support for Fedora users <[email protected]>
> Cc: Ranjan Maitra <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: OT: Re: Barcode reader Android
> 
> On Tue Aug19'25 09:35:45PM, Joe Average wrote:
> > From: Joe Average <[email protected]>
> > Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2025 21:35:45 -0000
> > To: [email protected]
> > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: OT: Re: Barcode reader Android
> > 
> > Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > ...
> > > I am not keen on going to GrapheneOS because I do not want to have a 
> > > google account to get Playstore apps (necessary ones ...
> > I got a Pixel 8 running GraphenOS with Aurora and F-Droid
> > fits my needs !
> 
> Thanks very much for this! GrapheneOS developers (purists) on their channel 
> would be apoplectic at the use of F-Droid (which to a layman like me sounds a 
> bit over the top). But this is good to know that Aurora and F-Droid can work 
> without signature spoofing provided by microG. Btw, I wonder why microG can 
> not be provided as a fork of GrapheneOS as an alternative.
> 
> > for 8a:
> > https://grapheneos.org/releases#akita
> 
> Thanks, I installed it some time ago, and went back to CalyxOS because I did 
> not want to have a Google account. I will try it again now that there are a 
> few use cases with Aurora, Obtainium and F-Droid.
> 
> Btw, https://grapheneos.org/install/ GrapheneOS does not list Fedora  as an 
> officially supported system for their installations. I was able to use 
> chromium on Fedora for a web install the last time I tried. 
> 
> Best wishes,
> Ranjan

I wanted to followup on this and mention that I was able to install GrapheneOS 
using Fedora 42. I downloaded android-tools from the official repos and the web 
installation using chromium was really painless after that.

I could not install Obtainium except manually. I also had to install Aurora 
manually. And I installed F-Droid, and have noticed that F-Droid seems "better" 
than Obtainium because the latter often is not able to get apps from their 
actual sites. Also, many apps such as gadgetbridge recommend the use of F-Droid.

I was initially able to proceed a long while without Playstore and the Play 
services. Outlook lite would not give me notifications, and neither would Molly 
(signal fork), but I got around the latter with using an Unified Push server. 
Perplexingly, Signal whined a bit with notifications on not having access to 
Playstore but did not seem to have much problems that I could tell. Expedia 
claimed that they do not work without Playstore but it ended up working anyway 
once I did the authentication (logged in). Ultimately, because the Outlook lite 
is my work email, I decided to go ahead and install Playservices (and then 
remove Playstore). Outlook lite notifications now work. 

But what did not quite work is the Duolingo language app. It appears that they 
really want access to a signed in Playstore account. So I set up a private area 
with Playstore and Playservices and this one app (and stay signed in). I really 
missed microG here. 

So, things were going reasonably well. However, I have been flummoxed by 
battery usage. If anything, my apps now are a fairly substantial subset (but 
still a subset) of what they were a week ago, but I seem to be having a bigger 
battery drain to the effect of the battery being drained in about half a day. I 
am not sure why. Previously I was at about half a battery in a day. (However, I 
have always charged my phones at night, so I do not really know what would 
happen on the second day.)

Meanwhile CalyxOS has decided to come in with an August (final) security 
update, releasing tomorrow, which essentially tides over for another month, and 
I could have kicked myself for not having waited another week. Anyway, I am 
pondering whether I should go back to CalyxOS to see if the battery 
coincidentally got degraded at the same time as the GrapheneOS install, or 
there is something else to it. Unfortunately, however, CalyxOS will have to be 
installed manually since there are no web install options that I can see.

Anyway, so in summary, GrapheneOS has been OK, but for this one battery issue.

I did report up the GrapheneOS chain that Fedora also works as an OS for 
installing GrapheneOS (at least from the web) but it is not clear if that went 
anywhere.

Best wishes,
Ranjan








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