On Mon, 2026-01-05 at 22:49 +1100, Philip Rhoades via users wrote:
> I managed my own Qmail MTA for decades but eventually succumbed to using 
> a cPanel hosted service - but there are annoyances with that setup so I 
> wondered about using my own server again but with cPanel. The recommended 
> servers are RPM-based but not officially supported - anyone installed on 
> Fedora?

You should probably say whether this is just internal mail systems or
publicly facing.  You can be fairly slack with internal mail security,
but not if its internet serving.

For what it's worth, I never tried using a configurator (like CPanel),
learning its foibles was already a pain when it came to my site's
hosting services.  It's mainly designed to let users tweak some things
for themselves without pestering an admin, and prevent them from doing
things that affects other users on the system.  That sort of thing may
be a problem in itself with any configurator (it's limitations, and
having to learn its foibles may be more hard work than learning how to
directly configure the services, yourself).

I use dovecot for an internal IMAP server, and it wasn't too hard to
deal with its configuration.  And for many years I had sendmail as an
internal system, and it was also my gateway to post out to the
internet, but had to stop that once most external mail needed
authentication before it could be sent.  It was easier to set up the
mail clients to do that themselves, with the outside service, rather
than figure out how to get sendmail to do that correctly for each
address (if it even could).  Though I do miss the convenience of being
able to simply configure any mail client in the LAN to just use the
local mail server as its sending and receiving servers.

Every now and then some external mail service would change their
requirements as far as you authenticating with it goes, and they'd only
publish information on configuring them major email programs to suit. 
Configuring *other* things to work with them requires extrapolating the
information.  But you can hit roadblocks if they play whitelisting
games, and only allow connections from particular software.

Several times I've had to fix up mail for an elderly lady because
Telstra (biggest service provider in Australia) had changed something,
and their tech support staff didn't know what to do with common mail
software (such as on Microsoft's Outlook on Android phones).  Their
systems can tell apart everything the user uses to connect, and
required different passwords for every client on every device (it
fingerprints the connection attempts), and you had to use a new
password generated by their system, you couldn't set your own, and they
buried the feature in a hidden menu on their webmail service.  But
their tech support didn't even know that.  They'd manage to get her
phone working, then her laptop couldn't.  If they bothered to then try
to get the laptop working, they broke phone access.  That was in-store
person-to-person help.  Over the phone help was useless for you.

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uname -rsvp
Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64
(yes, this is the output from uname for this PC when I posted)
 
Boilerplate:  All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted.
I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list.
 

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