On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Bill Oliver <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 27 May 2013, Richard Vickery wrote: > > Sorry for the HTML code; I'm trying to fix it. However, I yum-installed >> mutt and attempted to send the following email: >> [snip] >> > > Does this happen with all email, or only email to fedoraproject? > > Here's the obligatory "Hmmm... It works out of the box for me..." I hate > reading that when I have a problem, but I feel obligated to let you know. > > I'm not a mutt expert -- I have it installed only so I can script > broadcast emails from the command line -- but my impression is that it's > like pine in that it's a client, not a server, and uses the mail server > software you have installed for sending (e.g. sendmail, postfix), and hands > off to that. The error message you gave looks to me like a server issue. > Do you have another client on that box, like alpine, that does work? > > Since the problem is a timeout, it sounds like the server is talking to > fedoraproject, which means, to me, that mutt has handed it off. > > Here are some things that have screwed me over in the past: > > 1) The mailinglist only accepts mail with your name from one ip address or > domain, and this ain't it. Usually this gets a better error message than > timeout, but I've seen it. > > 2) There's an authentication problem (this is the most common for me, > particularly if I'm doing POP/IMAP stuff involving dovecot). Again, this > usually gets a better error message than a timeout, but I've seen it there, > too. A lot depends on how the servers are configured. > > 3) You do not have your client pointing to the correct server/MTA. I've > done this when I've had multiple domains and multiple servers behind one > firewall/router. I've also made the mistake of using "localhost" for my > server when I didn't mean to, and had installed, but not set up, sendmail > on my laptop as part of a default setup. So, I kept trying to debug my > "real" mail server and couldn't find a problem, when in fact my mail client > was trying to use my unconfigured laptop as a server. Doh. That's a day > out of my life I'll never get back. > > 4) You do not have your domain correctly denoted, and so there's a > mismatch (e.g. you are sending from "billoblog.com" but you are attaching > "localdomain.") That can cause some problems later on, though usually for > me the error message tells me that the reverse lookup failed at the > recipient site. I also get this on occasion when sending mail through an > ISP that returns the ISP domain on reverse lookup. > > 5) Fedoraproject's MTA was actually down when you tried to talk to it, and > you just have bad timing. It will clear up later. > > Since this is a bit of a touchy mailinglist culture here, I assume you'll > get all sorts of flak if you send an empty test email using a direct > sendmail or postfix command. Maybe there's a "test" address that the > mailinglist advertises for debugging. If so, I'd just do the old tried and > true "/usr/sbin/sendmail -v somewhere@somedomain < /dev/null " and see > what you get. If *that* times out, then it's not mutt that's the problem. > > billo > -- > users mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.**org/mailman/listinfo/users<https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users> > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/**Mailing_list_guidelines<http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines> > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > I went to a site for configuration which suggested I install these three packages, one of which we (Fedora) have abandoned in 2008 (may not be these packages): fetchmail msmtp procmail Thanks for the help, Sorry again about the HTML, Richard
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