On 24 Jul 2013, at 21:31, Bill Davidsen <david...@tmr.com> wrote: > Junk wrote: >> On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 11:08 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: >>> Darryl L. Pierce wrote: >>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 02:01:43PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: >>>>> This is back, <sigh> again. Having found out that fedup fails >>>>> totally to work on drives with encrypted partitions, >>>> >>>> I don't think this is still the case: I did F18->F19 on my laptop >>>> (encrypted /home and swap) using fedup and it worked just fine. >>> Not sure what you mean by "still the case," it was as of 1PM yesterday when >>> I >>> posted, and since it's burned on DVD I doubt it's changes. Some systems >>> refuse >>> to install without network. >>> >>> That was the response I got when I reported the bug before, "Can't >>> reproduce" >>> and "WFM" don't cover the ground with anything but a hard fail on all >>> systems. >>> And "you must be doing something wrong" really doesn't fit a process which >>> consists of "load DVD" followed by "power on." I've been installing Linux >>> since >>> it hit usenet in 91 or so, and it works on other systems. It's clearly a >>> Fedora >>> bug, does not happen on the same machine with Mint, Ubuntu, or Puppy, and >>> the >>> other machine which has this issue installed Slackware fine. Note: after >>> installing Slackware the problem went away, installing Ubentu didn't fix the >>> machine of interest. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bill Davidsen <david...@tmr.com> >>> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from >>> the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot >> >> Firstly. Calm down. I believe your preconceptions are mostly at issue >> here. > If you mean the preconception that install from DVD should not need a network > connection, that's exactly the issue. After install the upgrade comes from > another DVD holding a local repo of common things which have been updated. > >> The posts you responded to are talking about the fedup over a network >> onto an encrypted partition. Not the DVD install. It works but your too >> het up on your issue to realise what they are talking about notice. > Go back, read my post. I put a DVD into the machine with no network > connection to do an install from scratch because fedup didn't work. Clear? My > original post was clear that I was doing an install from DVD, and if "they" > thought it was something else, I reread my original post and it still seems > clear. >
Re-read the first line of your initial email. The one with the word 'fedup' in it. Are you, or are you not, talking about fedup? > Booted from DVD, did scratch install, system demanded network. Can't say it > any clearer than that, can't do it simpler than that. Just as have have done > on all the ones which worked. > > Can't be explained away, if it's user error it wouldn't work on some systems > but not all. I've been doing this a decade or two, after the first two fails > the rest of the tests were carefully noted step by step, trying things like > different filesystem types, reformatting the partitions or not, etc. In no > case did I return to trying to use fedup, because after an early attempt the > install could not recognize the boot or root partitions in any way. > >> Secondly, people are responding to your bugs with "Can't Reproduce" >> because they can't. I can't. I've just now set up a machine with no >> network card at all and successfully installed Fedora 19 from a DVD. >> What makes this all the more fun is that the answer you want is in the >> screenshot you posted. > Experience tells me that "doesn't happen every time" is not the same as > "doesn't happen." No matter what's on that screen, that screen shouldn't come > up on install from DVD. > Ok. The clear short version. The screenshot you posted. Click continue. The machine installs. That screen is not saying network is a requirement for install. But that it is required to get updates once the machine is installed. It gives you an opportunity to get things sorted. You can ignore it. >> And as Reindl has been getting all the action recently I'll finish with >> this. >> You, Sir, are what Aristotle would call "a 'tard" >> >> Now you can get angry again, > > Don't know what prompted the personal attack, perhaps frustration at not > being able to explain the problem, and not convincing me that it isn't a > problem? > > -- > Bill Davidsen <david...@tmr.com> > "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from > the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot > -- > And thus the case of The Crown versus Davidson was proven. Junk. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
