Quoting Michael Schwendt <mschwe...@gmail.com>:

On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 13:55:14 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

   finally getting around to building my new f20 machine and, as i
read it, f20 now ships without sendmail.

By default. Of course, you could install sendmail, which is still
available.

   so far, to match what i've used for years, i've installed on my
f20 box:

   * alpine
   * fetchmail

and i've copied over from my old (ubuntu) system the relevant files:

   * .addressbook{,.lu}
   * .pinerc
   * .fetchmailrc

i can check that there is mail waiting at my ISP with:

   $ fetchmail -c

and sure enough, there's a pile of mail there. however, not
surprisingly, if i try to fetch it, i get:

fetchmail: Connection errors for this poll:
name 0: connection to localhost:smtp [::1/25] failed: Connection refused.
name 1: connection to localhost:smtp [127.0.0.1/25] failed: Connection
refused.
fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed

since (obviously), without sendmail, nothing is listening on port
25. so what's the solution these days? a pointer to a web page
somewhere would work just fine. thanks.

Depends on whether you need sendmail for how you use fetchmail.
I run fetchmail with option   mda "/usr/bin/procmail -t -f -"
to deliver (and filter) via procmail.

  hmmm ... i may try that. i assume that, with this approach, i
won't need to install sendmail, correct? and if i choose to use
procmail, will this simply deliver mail for me locally even
before i start to configure my procmail rules? thanks.

rday

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