Chris Murphy <li...@colorremedies.com> writes: > > Again if you're using modern utilities, you don't have to know any of > these things, alignment is a solved problem. My point is that Btrfs > doesn't do anything differently than other filesystems in this regard, > which is exactly nothing. It all depends on an earlier tool aligning > the partition on the physical sector boundary.
is fdisk one of this modern utilities? > > Rootkit immunity. Chain of trust. Why should only Windows users get these > things? > rootkit immunity, I guess thats a technical term that means something, but it cant mean what it suggest, u cant prevent complelty rootkits by any technology, only if you make your harddrives complelty readonly or something. or it can help you to notice a rootkit or prevent some special kind of rootkit, but uefi cant make rootkits impossible, sorry but this words sounds like that. Its basicly a server only feature, no normal desktop user uses 1000 console tools to check if there is a rootkit or something, thought redhat and centos is for servers and fedora primary for desktop. and another thing servers run under special hardware, so why not have this stupid server features only availible on this things or use coreboot or something or support only coreboot. Trajan immunity, as far as I know this uefi thing is closed source so its a trojan on its own. Sorry OT but for normal users uefi at best dont have any possitive effects and no negative most likely it has negative effekts. > > No, it's my mistake I thought you had a UEFI computer for some > reason. In any case legacy boot isn't a great way to work around > having UEFI because first it's still a UEFI machine and then you have > this "compatibility support module" added on as a layer in between > UEFI and the OS. It can sometimes solve certain problems but it often > just adds even more complexity. yes > Right, so you're depending on the Btrfs 64KB bootloader pad (offset) > for GRUB core.img to reside on, and thus boot the system. That's fine, > but this isn't a supported layout by Fedora in that the installer > won't let you create such a system, so you're kinda on your own at the > moment. I get taht this is no blocker bug, but do you ignore all issues that are no blockers? I installed several gentoos in the past and arch linuxes and stuff, so I am able to install stuff by my own and can setup the grub stuff and so on. So now that I am a fedora User I should forget all that and only use the official installer? Or I get no support? I could even live with that uefi stuff, if there would be some console tools taht create automaticly all what is needed. If UEFI would be a format that every vendor would implement 100% right. But this OEMs or whatever makes this things cant do their job, so more complexity for hardware from vendors that make such buggy implementations is a real bad thing. If in 20 years in this propriatary bios-operation-systems there is legacy switch I will still use it. And dont bring up Android, its pure hell, if possible I dont will buy any of this things anymore its worse then windows ever was. Having complety operation systems in the modems and so on that copies all your data to nsa, no thanx. > This is sorta beside the point, but my Android phone has 35 partitions > - not my idea either, that's how it is. I have no idea what most of > them are used for, yet the phone still works. yes and thats why it sucks, which Tablet I can install fedora? which windows pc each windows pc and nearly no android "pc". Yes thanks google you done great in removing gnu from linux for good. > Fedora Project, and by support it means an issue we'd block release on > if it didn't work correctly. You can do what you want by having /boot > on ext4 and the rest of your OS on / on Btrfs, and grubby will > properly update grub.cfg without complaints. If you insist on having > /boot on Btrfs, then right now you either have to use an out of tree > grubby or you need to manually use grub2-mkconfig -o, etc. Yes but BTRFS is the future, there will be no ext4 boot partitions in a few years because everybody only uses btrfs in a few years like everybody uses ext4 only today (a few special server cases apart) so good btrfs support shhould be a goal. BTW I did not even ask for a definite quick patch for fedora, I just wanted a workaround. And yes maybe I am a year ahead, to what everybody will do in a year, I tend to be a bit early adopter somethimes (if its not useless garbage like uefi), I think when legacy is dead I will only buy hardware that is patchable by coreboot, or maybe we will see finaly a market of coreboot preinstalled hardware, then this technology which main focus is to fight linux aka uefi and secure-anti-linux-boot will go away. I will not buy it if possbile. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org