The discussion is getting very confusing, so here are some of my takes on the issues.
On the issue of P/Invoke declarations for Python/C API, Paolo Molaro wrote: "The python API requires a couple dozen structure definitions plus a few dozen dllimport declarations. This can be about 200 lines of trivial to write declarative stuff." It's certainly more than 200 lines, and it's not completely trivial because some parts of Python/C API are C macros, not C functions. (Reference counting is the most important, but also getting type(=vtable) of Python objects and like.) The good news is that this part is already developed, debugged, and pretty much finished -- for Python 2.3 to 2.6, and for wide and narrow unicode builds of Python. Get it here (~ 1600 lines): http://pythonnet.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pythonnet/trunk/pythonnet/src/runtime/runtime.cs Assuming that ZPL (which is OSI-certified) is okay, it would be strange not to use this. On the issue of compiling C or C++ to CLI, Keith J. Famer wrote: "My impression was that they're working under the assumption that you cannot get C++ code to compile to pure managed (False, use C++/CLI as recommended on the Mono site), and that it must *compile* under Mono (laudable, but I doubt it's necessary -- I've never bothered to recompile the Python Libraries)." Readers not familiar with the issue should read Mono documentation mentioned: http://www.mono-project.com/CPlusPlus I understand MC++ or Managed C++ is used to refer related technologies, but in the narrow sense it is a compiler that shipped with .NET 1.x which produced mix of managed and x86 code. I believe .NET 2.x compiler, i.e. C++/CLI is what is currently discussed. It would be nice to be able to compile without Microsoft tools, but I don't think it's essential. If assembly compiled with C++/CLI / clr:pure can be made to run on Mono that's fine. Also Mono page doesn't mention this, but GCC backend to emit CLI code *is* complete and working. It's available right now from GCC SVN. But it's yet another project, not Google Summer of Code attempts. This project is backed by STMicroelectronics, a big corporation, probably for its own use. http://gcc.gnu.org/projects/cli.html Remember, Mono doesn't need to be the sole provider of non-Microsoft CLI tools. :) I believe GCC/CLI can be made to help this project. Okay, enough said for this mail... -- Seo Sanghyeon _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
