Clearing cookies worked -- thanks guys.

http://codeplex.codeplex.com/WorkItem/View.aspx?WorkItemId=23563

Jimmy Schementi wrote:
WRT the Codeplex issues, http://codeplex.codeplex.com is the place to post 
issues about codeplex itself: http://codeplex.codeplex.com/WorkItem/List.aspx. 
Let us know when you open a bug so we can reinforce the complaints.

~js

-----Original Message-----
From: users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-
boun...@lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of Dino Viehland
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:58 AM
To: Discussion of IronPython
Subject: Re: [IronPython] object lifecycle issues

#1's definitely our bug.  We're caching the lookup of __init__ from Real and
invoking that instead of doing the lookup each time.  It should be easy
enough to fix.  I've opened a bug (23555 -
http://ironpython.codeplex.com/WorkItem/View.aspx?WorkItemId=23555)

#2 I'd guess could be either that for some reason we're failing to detect the
presence of __del__ or that when we run the finalizer cleanup that we
believe it's part of cyclic trash and don't think we should cleanup.
Of those I'd think it'd be the cyclic trash detection that'd be most likely to 
go
wrong.

I'd suggest putting a break point or some logging in
PythonOps.InitializeForFinalization and in WeakRefTracker's finalizer and see
what's happening there.

As for CodePlex I guess you can't even open a bug to complain to CodePlex
:(.  If you want to send us your browser/OS info we could open a bug for you
against CodePlex.  You could also try the old heavy hammer of clearing
cookies as maybe CodePlex has built up some bad browser state.  You could
also try using TeamExplorer to open the bugs but I'm not sure if you'll have
permissions there to do that or not.


-----Original Message-----
From: users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-
boun...@lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of William Reade
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:38 AM
To: Discussion of IronPython
Subject: [IronPython] object lifecycle issues

Hi all

I have two problems that are at least somewhat related:

+++ Issue 1 (probably your bug):

---------------------------------------------------------------
C:\dev\ironclad - Copy>ipy y.py
real new
stub new
real init
real del

C:\dev\ironclad - Copy>python y.py
real new
stub new
stub init
real del
---------------------------------------------------------------

I freely admit that the attached code is pretty weird, but I really do
need to do stuff like this in Ironclad. The difference in behaviour
may or may not be responsible for certain failing numpy/scipy tests --
I'm not sure how to tell -- but I'd enormously appreciate a fix.

I'd report the issue on Codeplex, but trying to visit the issue
tracker just leaves my browser spinning forever. Speaking of which: is
there any alternative way of reporting bugs that doesn't make me feel
as if I'm spamming the list with out-of-band noise? I'm pretty sure
that a few bugs have just dropped off my stack in the last few months,
just because I got tired of waiting for Codeplex to start working.

+++ Issue 2 (almost certainly my bug):

In a nearly identical* situation -- close enough that I can't say how
it's actually different -- f will never get its __del__ method called
(the object is destroyed -- a WeakReference to it knows it's dead --
but the __del__ call never happens).

For context: I have *very* similar classes, whose instances are
constructed in exactly the weird way demonstrated in the attached
file, and which work fine. The only difference between the cases that
work and the cases that don't is that the broken cases multiply
inherit from ipy types which wrap CLR types (int and float (and maybe
str, although I haven't tested that one)), while the working cases
have simple chains of single inheritance from user-defined types all the
way up to object.
However, the attached repro doesn't show my problem, so it's clearly
not
*just* to do with multiply inheriting from CLR types.

Does anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong? I know this is
a vague request, but I'm running out of ideas, and I'd really
appreciate some input from someone who understands precisely what all
those ipy MetaFoo classes are doing.

Cheers
william


* the attached file started life as an attempt to repro the __del__
issue, and I incidentally noticed the __init__ issue.
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