This was relatively easy, it was just work once Michael came up with the 
great idea.  But I do manage to get plenty of sleep - I just put off other 
mundane but important things on my TODO list like updating our perf 
infrastructure.

-----Original Message-----
From: users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com 
[mailto:users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Hardy
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 2:27 PM
To: Discussion of IronPython
Subject: Re: [IronPython] Django, __unicode__, and #20366

Works for me - lots more Django tests passing, now. Awesome work,
Dino! (PS: do you even sleep?)

- Jeff

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Dino Viehland <di...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> This is now checked into the Main branch if anyone wants to download, 
> compile, and give it a shot.
>
> I'll push it to the 2.6 branch post-PyCon.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com 
> [mailto:users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of Michael Foord
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 2:24 AM
> To: Discussion of IronPython
> Subject: Re: [IronPython] Django, __unicode__, and #20366
>
> On 12/02/2010 03:37, Dino Viehland wrote:
>> And it turns out this works great!  We now pass all of the tests in
>> test_str and test_unicode related to calling str/unicode and getting
>> the appropriate __str__/__unicode__ method called.  We also now properly
>> don't decode strings when you do unicode('foo') so we no longer throw
>> for Vernon's exception case where CPython doesn't throw.
>>
>> So I'm inclined to go with this fix.
>>
>
> That's great news.
>
> Michael
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-
>>> boun...@lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of Dino Viehland
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:38 AM
>>> To: Discussion of IronPython
>>> Subject: Re: [IronPython] Django, __unicode__, and #20366
>>>
>>> It definitely won't be in 2.6RC1 but could be in 2.6 final (or RC2 or
>>> whatever).
>>>
>>> I'm still looking into Michael's proposed fix of recognizing calls to
>>> unicode -
>>> it's a little tricky dealing with * and **args calls to it and I got
>>> distracted
>>> by preparing for PyCon.
>>>
>>> Hopefully I can finish that up in the next couple of days and see how
>>> that
>>> works vs. just calling __unicode__ when __str__ gets called.
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-
>>>> boun...@lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Hardy
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:21 AM
>>>> To: Discussion of IronPython
>>>> Subject: Re: [IronPython] Django, __unicode__, and #20366
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Dino Viehland<di...@microsoft.com>
>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Messing with identity starts to get really scary and I'd rather not
>>>>>
>>> go
>>>
>>>>> there - I'm sure there will be lots of edge cases which will be
>>>>>
>>> broken.
>>>
>>>>> I could see is making unicode(foo) do something different.  If you
>>>>>
>>> aliased
>>>
>>>>> unicode then you'd get str's behavior though but that might be
>>>>>
>>> perfectly
>>>
>>>>> acceptable.  It's definitely a solution I had not considered and
>>>>>
>>> it'd
>>>
>>>>> probably fix multiple issues.
>>>>>
>>>> Hi Dino,
>>>> It looks like this is a major impediment to running Django; the
>>>> majority of the test suite failures are because IronPython calls
>>>> __str__ instead of __unicode__. Any chance this could be fixed for
>>>> 2.6.1? I know it's a big change, but IMHO it's pretty critical as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> - Jeff
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