The goal of Open MPI is to provide a high quality of the MPI standard,

and the goal of this mailing list is to discuss Open MPI (and not the 
MPI standard)



The Java bindings support "recent" JDK, and if you face an issue, please 
report a bug (either here or on github)



Cheers,



Gilles

----- Original Message -----

Hello,

This may be a bit of a longer post and I am not sure if it is even 
appropriate here but I figured I ask. There are no hidden agendas in it, 
so please treat it as "asking for opinions/advice", as opposed to 
judging or provoking.

For the period between 2010 to 2017 I used to work in (buzzword alert!) 
"big data" (meaning Spark, HDFS, reactive stuff like Akka) but way 
before that in the early 2000s I used to write basic multithreaded C and 
some MPI code. I came back to HPC/academia two years ago and what struck 
me was that (for lack of better word) the field is still "stuck" (again, 
for lack of better word) on MPI. This itself may seem negative in this 
context, however, I am just stating my observation, which may be wrong.

I like low level programming and I like being in control of what is 
going on but having had the experience in Spark and Akka, I kind of got 
spoiled. Yes, I understand that the latter has fault-tolerance (which is 
nice) and MPI doesn't (or at least, didn't when I played with in 1999-
2005) but I always felt like MPI needed higher level abstractions as a 
CHOICE (not _only_ choice) laid over the bare metal offerings. The whole 
world has moved onto programming in patterns and higher level 
abstractions, why is the academic/HPC world stuck on bare metal, still? 
Yes, I understand that performance often matters and the higher up you 
go, the more performance loss you incur, however, there is also 
something to be said about developer time and ease of understanding/
abstracting etc. etc.

Be that as it may, I am working on a project now in the HPC world and I 
noticed that Open MPI has Java bindings (or should I say "interface"?). 
What is the state of those? Which JDK do they support? Most importantly, 
would it be a HUGE pipe dream to think about building patterns a-la Akka 
(or even mixing actual Akka implementation) on top of OpenMPI via this 
Java bridge? What would be involved on the OpenMPI side? I have time/
interest in going this route if there would be any hope of coming up 
with something that would make my life (and future people coming into 
HPC/MPI) easier in terms of building applications. I am not saying MPI 
in C/C++/Fortran should go away, however, sometimes we don't need the 
low-level stuff to express a concept :-). It may also open a whole new 
world for people on large clusters...

Thank you!
 

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