Jeff,

I'll take a look when I'm back at work next week. I work with someone on
the Fortran Standards Committee, so if I can find the code, we can probably
figure out how to fix it.

That said, I know juuuuust enough Autotools to cause massive damage and fix
a minor bugs. Can you give me a pointer as to where to look for the Fortran
tests the configure scripts runs? conftest.f90 is the "generic" name I
assume Autotools uses for tests, so I'm guessing there is an... m4 script
somewhere generating it? In config/ maybe?

Matt

On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 10:27 AM Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) <jsquy...@cisco.com>
wrote:

> Snarky comments from the NAG tech support people aside, if they could be a
> little more specific about what non-conformant Fortran code they're
> referring to, we'd be happy to work with them to get it fixed.
>
> I'm one of the few people in the Open MPI dev community who has a clue
> about Fortran, and I'm *very far* from being a Fortran expert.  Modern
> Fortran is a legitimately complicated language.  So it doesn't surprise me
> that we might have some code in our configure tests that isn't quite right.
>
> Let's also keep in mind that the state of F2008 support varies widely
> across compilers and versions.  The current Open MPI configure tests
> straddle the line of trying to find *enough* F2008 support in a given
> compiler to be sufficient for the mpi_f08 module without being so overly
> proscriptive as to disqualify compilers that aren't fully F2008-compliant.
> Frankly, the state of F2008 support across the various Fortran compilers
> was a mess when we wrote those configure tests; we had to cobble together a
> variety of complicated tests to figure out if any given compiler supported
> enough F2008 support for some / all of the mpi_f08 module.  That's why the
> configure tests are... complicated.
>
> --
> Jeff Squyres
> jsquy...@cisco.com
>
> ________________________________________
> From: users <users-boun...@lists.open-mpi.org> on behalf of Matt Thompson
> via users <users@lists.open-mpi.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2021 11:41 AM
> To: Wadud Miah
> Cc: Matt Thompson; Open MPI Users
> Subject: Re: [OMPI users] NAG Fortran 2018 bindings with Open MPI 4.1.2
>
> I heard back from NAG:
>
> Regarding OpenMPI, we have attempted the build ourselves but cannot make
> sense of the configure script. Only the OpenMPI maintainers can do
> something about that and it looks like they assume that all compilers will
> just swallow non-conforming Fortran code. The error downgrading options for
> NAG compiler remain "-dusty", "-mismatch" and "-mismatch_all" and none of
> them seem to help with the mpi_f08 module of OpenMPI. If there is a bug in
> the NAG Fortran Compiler that is responsible for this, we would love to
> hear about it, but at the moment we are not aware of such.
>
> So it might mean the configure script itself might need to be altered to
> use F2008 conforming code?
>
> On Thu, Dec 23, 2021 at 8:31 AM Wadud Miah <wmiah...@gmail.com<mailto:
> wmiah...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> You can contact NAG support at supp...@nag.co.uk<mailto:supp...@nag.co.uk>
> but they will look into this in the new year.
>
> Regards,
>
> On Thu, 23 Dec 2021, 13:18 Matt Thompson via users, <
> users@lists.open-mpi.org<mailto:users@lists.open-mpi.org>> wrote:
> Oh. Yes, I am on macOS. The Linux cluster I work on doesn't have NAG 7.1
> on it...mainly because I haven't asked for it. Until NAG fix the bug we are
> seeing, I figured why bother the admins.
>
> Still, it does *seem* like it should work. I might ask NAG support about
> it.
>
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 6:28 PM Tom Kacvinsky <tkacv...@gmail.com<mailto:
> tkacv...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 5:45 PM Tom Kacvinsky <tkacv...@gmail.com<mailto:
> tkacv...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 4:11 PM Matt Thompson <fort...@gmail.com<mailto:
> fort...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > When I build Open MPI with NAG, I have to pass in:
> > >
> > >   FCFLAGS"=-mismatch_all -fpp"
> > >
> > > this flag tells nagfor to downgrade some errors with interfaces to
> warnings:
> > >
> > >        -mismatch_all
> > >                  Further downgrade consistency checking of procedure
> argument lists so that calls to routines in the same file which are
> > >                  incorrect will produce warnings instead of error
> messages.  This option disables -C=calls.
> > >
> > > The fpp flag is how you tell NAG to do preprocessing (it doesn't
> automatically do it with .F90 files).
> > >
> > > I also have to pass in a lot of other flags as seen here:
> > >
> > >
> https://github.com/mathomp4/parcelmodulefiles/blob/main/Compiler/nag-7.1_7101/openmpi/4.1.2.lua
> > >
> > > Now I hadn't yet tried NAG 7.1 with Open MPI because NAG 7.1 has a bug
> with a library I depend on, but it does promise better F2008 support. To
> see what happens, I tried myself and added --enable-mpi-fortran=all, but:
> > >
> > > checking if building Fortran 'use mpi_f08' bindings... no
> > > configure: error: Cannot build requested Fortran bindings, aborting
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, the NAG Fortran guru I work with is off until the new
> year. When he comes back, I might ask him about this. He might know
> something we can do to make NAG happy with mpif08.
> > >
> >
> > The very curious thing about this is that NAG 7.1 is that mpif08
> > configured properly with the macOS (Intel architecture) flavor of
> > it.  But as this thread seems to indicate, it barfs on Linux.  Just
> > an extra data point.
> >
>
> I'd like to recall that statement, I was not looking at the config.log
> carefully enough.  I see this still, even on macOS
>
> checking if building Fortran 'use mpi_f08' bindings... no
>
>
> --
> Matt Thompson
>    “The fact is, this is about us identifying what we do best and
>    finding more ways of doing less of it better” -- Director of Better
> Anna Rampton
>
>
> --
> Matt Thompson
>    “The fact is, this is about us identifying what we do best and
>    finding more ways of doing less of it better” -- Director of Better
> Anna Rampton
>


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