Hi Ruben,

Thank you very much for the updates. Looking forward to see some of this 
features in the upcoming version.


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Anandharaj

From: Ruben S. Montero [mailto:rsmont...@opennebula.org]
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 10:14 PM
To: Nicolas Bélan; Anandharaj Subramaniam
Cc: users@lists.opennebula.org
Subject: Re: [one-users] Cloud View with Persistent Image

Hi

These two are on our radar and probably scheduled for the next release. I 
totally agree that we need to simplify the provision process even more.

About feature 1.

We have two issues:

[1] Clone a running VM. http://dev.opennebula.org/issues/2637
[2] Clone a template . http://dev.opennebula.org/issues/2051

Last one includes images (pretty much the procedure outlined by Anandharaj 
under "New VM request") and I think this will cover exactly your request.

About feature 2.

We want to add the ability to update any part of a template for VM, most of it 
can be done if the VM is running (eg. attach a new disk or nic). Others like 
memory can be resized when the VM is powered off. You would not need to update 
and recreate the template.

[3] http://dev.opennebula.org/issues/2065

So, I believe we can implement the workflow described by Anandharaj with these 
features (and exposing it through Cloud View)...

Thanks for your feedback!

Cheers

Ruben

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:34 PM, Nicolas Bélan 
<nicolas.be...@gmail.com<mailto:nicolas.be...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I have exactly the same pb, and same needs ...
I start think about a dedicated web service to handle that, but a shorter 
(quicker) way to achieve deployments would be nice !

I will follow this thread for feebacks too

Best regards,
NB
Le 02/10/2014 06:07, Anandharaj Subramaniam a écrit :
Hi All,

Just need some clarification and would like to get you guys feedback on 
managing VMs using OpenNebula in your environment.

Our current practice as below (using OpenNebula 4.2):

1.       New VM request

-          Clone existing image (master image) to a new image. All the images 
are persistent.

-          Clone existing template (master template) to a new template.

-          Update the new template – set cpu/vcpu, memory, image (point to 
newly created image), ip address, etc

-          Instantiate the template



2.       Update the spec of the VM

-          Shutdown / delete the running VM

-          Update the template belongs to that particular VM – e.g set the new 
memory size

-          Instantiate the template

Note:  a) In our setup, every VM will have their own template as per done in #1
             b) Reason being update the template & re-instantiate instead of 
just  update the memory in VM is because of #3 below


3.       Repair the VM

-          In some cases the VM’s filesystem will have some errors (eg: due to 
force shutdown / nfs issues) therefore require to run fsck using live CD.

-          Image type CDROM cannot be attached thru VM list page (click on the 
VM -> storage tab)

-          Update the VM’s template – add disk and choose the ISO image, choose 
boot = cdrom

-          Instantiate the template and fix the errors using the live CD

-          Shutdown / delete the running VM

-          Update the VM’s template – remove the ISO image and choose boot = hd

-          Instantiate the template


From the above scenario, anything that we are doing inefficiently? Im still new 
to this OpenNebula so appreciate you guys feedback / suggestion


Testing environment (OpenNebula 4.8)

To further understand on this OpenNebula, I have setup ONE 4.8 and testing the 
Cloud View and see how I can improve my operation / VM administration.

The way user can create VM in Cloud View is the one I need – user define the VM 
name, choose the template (OS), set the memory & CPU and launch it. Very 
simple. But unfortunately this only works with non-persistent image type. In my 
case, I cannot use non-persistent image because of the reason stated in #2 and 
#3 above.

So what I think Cloud View can be improved is:

-          Based on config parameter (oned.conf -> ONE_DEPLOY=Persistent),  
when user create a VM, a template should be created and the image should be 
cloned as persistent image. This is kinda same behavior as “Save” VM with only 
different is the image persistent yes/no and template spec

-          Able to attach / detach CDROM
Feel free to comment on this and provide some feedback.

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