On Sep 25, 2018, at 6:22 AM, Joel Pearson <japear...@agiledigital.com.au>
wrote:

Clayton, does this mean that in OpenShift 4.0 you'd be able to take a
vanilla kubernetes installation and then install a bunch of OpenShift
operators and basically have an OpenShift cluster?


It’s not really the goal, since there are still admission plugins and
patches in Kube-* binaries that are necessary to keep backward
compatibility and round our multitenant security.  Also, the top level
operator will manage the control plane, which won’t work well if you don’t
have a control plane or someone else installed it.  Finally, node
management will be a fully integrated part of 4.0, so many of the
advantages of Red Hat CoreOS would be lost.

That said, if you squint, yes, and we will certainly be doing things that
make the separation clearer over time.

Or is that not really the goal of migration to operators? Is it just to
make future OpenShift releases easier to package?


The goal is a fully managed update process that works at the click of a
button, full node management on all cloud providers and metal, better and
more dynamic cluster config (moving config to api objects you can kubectl
apply post-install), and better future support for extending openshift with
other ecosystem projects like istio and knative


On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 9:18 AM Clayton Coleman <ccole...@redhat.com> wrote:

> Master right now will be labeled 4.0 when 3.11 branches (happening right
> now).  It’s possible we might later cut a 3.12 but no plans at the current
> time.
>
> Changes to master will include significant changes as the core is rewired
> with operators - you’ll also see much more focus on preparing
> openshift/installer and refractors in openshift-ansible that reduce its
> scope as the hand-off to operators happens.  Expect churn for the next
> months.
>
> On Sep 6, 2018, at 6:23 PM, Daniel Comnea <comnea.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Clayton,
>
> 4.0 is that going to be 3.12 rebranded (if we follow the current release
> cycle) or 3.13 ?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 2:34 PM Clayton Coleman <ccole...@redhat.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The successor to atomic host will be RH CoreOS and the community
>> variants.  That is slated for 4.0.
>>
>> > On Sep 6, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Marc Ledent <marc.led...@dhl.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I have read in the 3.10 release notes that Atomic Host is deprecated
>> and will nod be supported starting release 3.11.
>> >
>> > What this means? Is it advisable to migrate all Atomic host vms to
>> "standard" RHEL server?
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> > Marc
>> >
>> >
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