Hi Mariana,
Well, having the dialog module sharing the dialog info between multiple
instances, it is on the roadmap for next releases.
What you can play with for the moment is the new functionality Vlad
already mentioned.
Regards,
Bogdan
On 03/14/2012 03:51 PM, Mariana Arduini wrote:
Hi Bogdan,
I got what you said about how the edge server should work, we were
thinking of something like that. Thanks a lot for pointing important
issues to be solved.
Back to the question on how to get an OpenSIPS instance to "see"
dialogs created by another OpenSIPS instance... what direction would
you suggest us to achieve this? Would it be something like creating a
new Dialog Module based on a distributed key-value store using one of
the cache_db modules?
Thanks again!
Mariana.
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Bogdan-Andrei Iancu
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Mariana,
In your description, I identify 2 separate issues:
1) preserving the ongoing call - when the edge server learns that
instance1 is down, it should take care of re-routing the
sequential requests through a different core server ; as I guess
you do RR on both edge and core, I assume that sequential requests
are Route driven; if so, the edge, after doing loose_route() for a
sequential request, it should check if the newly set destination
(by loose_route) is still active or not (let's say there is an
extension of LB module to tell if a peer is up or down); and if
the destination pointed by Route hdr is down, the edge to simply
route the call to another core proxy - of course this assumes that
the core proxy should accept sequential requests with Route IP of
one of the other core server (you need to alias the IPs of the
other core proxies) - at least this will make the core system to
receive, accept and route sequential requests for calls
established through other core servers.
2) handling failure events for ongoing calls - by the SIP nature,
once the call is established, there is nothing more going on at
SIP level in order to "see" if the call is still on or not. This
is one issue that can be addressed by in-dialog probing for
example; or SST ; A second issues is what to do - ok, you noticed
that core proxt 1 is down and you have 4 calls going through ?
Considering that the routing info is in the Route headers (which
are learned by end devices), there is not much you can do to force
the dialogs to go through a different server, rather that what I
said to 1)
Regards,
Bogdan
On 03/12/2012 05:18 PM, Mariana Arduini wrote:
Hi Bogdan,
Thank you for pointing the possible issues in our solution :)
The initial idea is to use load balancers running on a HA
set. Our OpenSIPS instances will connect 2 network domains. We'll
need a load balancer in front of each one of the network domains,
as in this figure: http://s7.postimage.org/a5ex6dqgr/arch.jpg
Besides running the load_balance module, edge servers would
detect when instance 1 goes down and "transfer" all dialogs to
another instance. I'm aware that this is not implemented in the
current OpenSIPS code, but keeping all the established calls and
being able to handle sequential requests on them is a requirement
in our project and we'll have to find out how to do this. First
thoughts may include making some changes on load_balance module,
but so far we don't have a defined strategy. By the way, would
you have any clue on this?
Considering everything I've read in this users list and the way
the load_balance module works (i.e. it just relays all of the
sequential requests to the same server, whatever it is its
status), I feel the current OpenSIPS implementation is not
worried about loosing established ongoing calls in case of one of
the instances fails, besides the usual lost of early state calls.
Is it a common solution in SIP systems or is there any planning
for improving this in OpenSIPS on the next releases?
Thanks a lot again!
Mariana
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Mariana Arduini
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Bogdan,
Thank you for pointing the possible issues in our solution :)
The initial idea is to use load balancers running on a HA
set. Our OpenSIPS instances will connect 2 network domains.
We'll need a load balancer in front of each one of the
network domains, as in this figure:
Besides running the load_balance module, edge servers would
detect when instance 1 goes down and "transfer" all dialogs
to another instance. I'm aware that this is not implemented
in the current OpenSIPS code, but keeping all the established
calls and being able to handle sequential requests on them is
a requirement in our project and we'll have to find out how
to do this. First thoughts may include making some changes on
load_balance module, but so far we don't have a defined
strategy. By the way, would you have any clue on this?
Considering everything I've read in this users list and the
way the load_balance module works (i.e. it just relays all of
the sequential requests to the same server, whatever it is
its status), I feel the current OpenSIPS implementation is
not worried about loosing established ongoing calls in case
of one of the instances fails, besides the usual lost of
early state calls. Is it a common solution in SIP systems or
is there any planning for improving this in OpenSIPS on the
next releases?
Thanks a lot again!
Mariana
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Bogdan-Andrei Iancu
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Mariana,
Well, before considering how opensips can "see" the
dialogs created by other opensips instance, you should
consider how the sequential request will get to the other
instance.
Let me explain:
(1) dialog is created through instance X with IP1, so
call is record routed with this IP1
(2) instance X goes down, but you have another
instance Y up and running with IP2
(3) considering that sequential requests tries to go
to IP1, how do you make them being routed (Ip level) to
IP2 where the Y instance is running ?
Regards,
Bogdan
On 03/09/2012 09:18 PM, Mariana Arduini wrote:
Hello Bodgan,
The problem is sequential requests in that dialog would
not be delivered to the end-user, since the server would
have gone down. BYE and re-INVITE messages wouldn't be
relayed, affecting billing and features like call hold
and call transfer. Also, we wouldn't be able to release
media gateways resources.
Despite all this, you sound like this is not an
appropriate solution. If so, what other directions would
you suggest?
Thanks for your help!
Mariana.
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Bogdan-Andrei Iancu
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hello Mariana,
Currently there is no way you can share the dialog
state between 2 running instances of opensips.
Probably this will be available in the next versions
(1.9 maybe ?).
But my question is how comes you have such a
scenario that requests of the same dialog end up on
different servers ?? may you such consider fixing
that part.
Regards,
Bogdan
On 03/09/2012 02:36 PM, Mariana Arduini wrote:
Hello,
I've been searching a lot on how to have more than
one OpenSIPS handling messages from the same dialog
(for example, the initial request goes to server #1
and the sequential requests go to server #2, in
case server #1 goes down). I've tried pointing the
db_url to the same database on both servers,
setting db_mode parameter to 1 (flush all dialog
data into DB immediately), setting the
db_update_period to a smaller value than the
default but didn't work, except for when we stop
server #1 smoothly. Even so, some header
translations we should do were not performed.
I'm supposed to find out how a distributed
key-value store like Redis can be useful on that.
I've seen the example in the Key-value Interface
Tutorial but I have no idea on how to transfer
dialog values, flags along with other dialog state
information from the database to a KVP store. Would
it be something like having a whole new dialog
module that uses a distributed cache_db instead?
Sounds hard to accomplish...
Is this
http://lists.opensips.org/pipermail/users/2012-February/020657.html supposed
to do what I need? Is there any example of use
anywhere? What I got from it is just profiling
distribution, I don't get how could this allow all
dialog state to be shared...
Thanks a lot for any pointer or help.
Mariana.
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