Dear Giuseppe,

Thank you for very pertinent comment. Of course, I have meant stoichiometric materials, not the defect structures. Indeed, in the latter case band structure is not well defined notion, but probably DOS for some supercell approximation of defect structure is more robust.

Sincerely yours,
M. V. Kondrin

On 01/12/2023 01:06 PM, Giuseppe Mattioli wrote:

Dear M. V. Kondrin
The "scissors operator" strategy can be appropriate in the case of stoichiometric materials, but it may be not when you investigate defects or dopants in a host matrix, where the band structure (and the DOS) can depend on the localization of electronic charge on defects that can be seen as "deep" or "shallow" by different GGA or EXX functionals. The best method to use depend on Rameswar's purposes.
Best
Giuseppe

Quoting mkondrin <mkond...@hppi.troitsk.ru>:

I also performed calculations using HSE06 functional for obtaining electron DOS (using projwfc.x). It is compatible with hybrid functionals and usually provide correct values of electron bandgaps. After that I just used "scissors" operation on electron band structure obtained using standard PBE to match bandgap obtained previously.

Approximately in the same words I described this operation in the recent paper which is under review now.

Hope this helps.

Sincerely yours,
M. V. Kondrin



On 01/12/2023 11:03 AM, Giuseppe Mattioli wrote:

AFAIK, nscf calculations are not compatible with EXX functionals. There are a few workarounds, like manually adding the band path as "fake" k-points with weight=0 to the regular grid obtained by the automatic distribution used in the scf calculation. I generally perform EXX calculations of isolated or very large systems @Gamma. More experienced users may add more accurate information.
HTH
Giuseppe

Quoting Rameswar Bhattacharjee <rb1...@georgetown.edu>:

Hi Giuseppe,
Thank you very much for your detailed reply. I followed the instructions
and was able to complete the SCF calculation. Also, I did an NSCF
calculation using the same combination you suggested as a pre-step to
perform the band calculation. My ultimate aim is to get the band gap using
a hybrid functional such as PBE0.

However, I am not able to run the band calculation with this combination
got an error like below:

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Error in routine exx_grid_init (1):

    wrong EXX q grid


%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% It seems the k-points grid I am using is not suitable for EXX calculation although I used the same grid for PBE and it was perfect. I am sure someone in the forum had performed band structure using hybrid functional and would
be able to help me resolve this. Any help would be highly appreciated.

Here is my input for band calculation using PBE0

------------------------------------------

&control

   restart_mode='from_scratch'

   calculation='bands'

   prefix='Ethyne-Anthracene',

   pseudo_dir = '/home/rb1820/QE-PP/NC',

   outdir='./scratch'

/

&system

 ibrav = 0,

  tot_charge=0,

 nat=36,

 ntyp=2,

 ecutwfc = 90,

 ecutfock= 150,

 input_dft='pbe0'

 vdw_corr='grimme-d2',

 nbnd = 60

/

&electrons

electron_maxstep = 1000

mixing_beta=0.7

diagonalization='david'

diago_david_ndim = 2

conv_thr=1.0d-8

/

&ions

/

&CELL

cell_dynamics='bfgs',

press = 0.0

cell_dofree = 'x',

/

ATOMIC_SPECIES

H   1.008     H_ONCV_PBE-1.2.upf

C   12.0107   C_ONCV_PBE-1.2.upf


ATOMIC_POSITIONS {angstrom}

K_POINTS { crystal }

11

-0.5  0.0  0.0   1.0

-0.4  0.0  0.0   1.0

-0.3  0.0  0.0   1.0

-0.2  0.0  0.0   1.0

-0.1  0.0  0.0   1.0

0.0  0.0  0.0   1.0

0.1  0.0  0.0   1.0

0.2  0.0  0.0   1.0

0.3  0.0  0.0   1.0

0.4  0.0  0.0   1.0

0.5  0.0  0.0   1.0


CELL_PARAMETERS {angstrom}

  6.933462797   0.000000000   0.000000000

  0.000000000  20.000000000   0.000000000

  0.000000000   0.000000000  20.000000000
---------------------------------------------------------------


Thanks

Rameswar Bhattacharjee
Georgetown University

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 3:21 AM Giuseppe Mattioli <
giuseppe.matti...@ism.cnr.it> wrote:


Dear Rameswar Bhattacharjee
I don't know if this is the actual source of error, but I strongly
recommend to use norm-conserving pseudopotentials when performing EXX
calculations. You have generally no speed-up with US because ecutrho
is more or less often the same, and in your case you are using
tremendously high (and likely useless) values for ecutwfc and ecutrho.
Moreover, using NC you can finely tune the density basis set used to
build Fock integrals with ecutfock, otherwise stuck to the ecutrho
value. This combination of values is probably responsible for a very
high memory request (the code prints an estimate at the beginning of
the output). For example, *using C and H ONCV pseudopotentials*, you
should be on the reasonably accurate side using

ecutwfc=90.0
ecutfock=135.0~180.0
ecutrho is automatically fixed at ecutwfc*4=360.0 in the case of NC

HTH
Giuseppe

Quoting Rameswar Bhattacharjee <rb1...@georgetown.edu>:

Hi Everyone,
I am trying to get a band structure using a hybrid functional. As
suggested
previously in this forum I choose PBE0 functional with pbe-ultrasoft
pseudopotential. The calculation starts fine and scf iteration converges smoothly. But the job is stuck and does not complete with the last line
"ACE
projected onto 60 (nbndproj) and applied to 60 (nbnd) bands". I am not sure what mistake I am making here or if it is just a memory issue as
no error message is printing. Any suggestion would be highly
appreciated. I
am providing last few lines of the output and my input str for reference.
Thank you.

Last few lines of the scf output
-------------------------------

highest occupied, lowest unoccupied level (ev): -3.5627 -3.2294


!    total energy              =    -312.15802972 Ry

     estimated scf accuracy    <          3.2E-09 Ry


     convergence has been achieved in  12 iterations


     Using ACE for calculation of exact exchange


EXX grid: 4188907 G-vectors FFT dimensions: ( 100, 288, 288)

     ACE projected onto    60 (nbndproj) and applied to    60 (nbnd)
bands
----------------------------------

Input str
------------------------------

&control

    restart_mode='from_scratch'

    calculation='scf'

    prefix='Test',

    pseudo_dir = '/home/QE-PP',

    outdir='./scratch'

/

&system

  ibrav = 0,

   tot_charge=0,

  nat=36,

  ntyp=2,

  ecutwfc = 140,

  ecutrho = 1400.0,

  input_dft='pbe0'

  vdw_corr='grimme-d2',

  nbnd = 60

/

&electrons

electron_maxstep = 1000

mixing_beta=0.7

diagonalization='david'

diago_david_ndim = 2

conv_thr=1.0d-8

/

&ions

/

&CELL

cell_dynamics='bfgs',

 press = 0.0

cell_dofree = 'x',

/

ATOMIC_SPECIES

H   1.008     H.pbe-rrkjus_psl.1.0.0.UPF

C   12.0107   C.pbe-n-rrkjus_psl.1.0.0.UPF


ATOMIC_POSITIONS {angstrom}


K_POINTS automatic

12 1 1 0 0 0


CELL_PARAMETERS {angstrom}

   6.933462797   0.000000000   0.000000000

   0.000000000  20.000000000   0.000000000

   0.000000000   0.000000000  20.000000000

----------------


Rameswar Bhattacharjee

Georgetown University



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