You're welcome! We're new at this too. I'm in the process of rolling out maven to the dozen or so projects within my department. I've focused primarily on architecting the build environment (multiproject builds, project inheritance, etc.) One of my developers is working out the kinks with getting maven to work with WSAD. I too have questions on exactly the best way to do this (so that you can still "run on server" within WSAD and resolve dependencies, etc.)
I prefer requiring developers to do some things outside of the IDE. I want the developers to build their projects the same way our continuous integration tools will build them (once we setup cruise control or anthill). Also, I was burned once because I had a developer out of the office and I could not build the project on my machine because my WSAD settings weren't *exactly* right. I want any developer in my office (including me) to be able to check out any project from CVS and run "maven war" and have it build correctly. You can script the creation of a new project in a batch file if necessary, but there is a benefit to being able to build and deploy your projects without needing the IDE. - Paul > -----Original Message----- > From: Vikas Phonsa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 8:29 PM > To: 'Maven Users List' > Subject: RE: How to start projects with Maven > > Paul, > > Yeah paul I have kinda figured out the things. But tell me a > thing, are the programmers working with you happy with having > to do all this work, particularly running genapp outside the > IDE. I want to propose using Maven to other programmers in > my company who have been working solely with the IDE so far. > > And I like to explore new technology. > > But have you experienced some real benefits of using Maven > along with your IDE. > > And thanks a lot for all your help. > > Vikas > > -----Original Message----- > From: O'Fallon, Paul (MAN-Corporate) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 5:17 PM > To: Maven Users List > Subject: RE: How to start projects with Maven > > You should run "maven genapp" first (outside of your IDE), > then cd into the directory genapp created (the one with your > project.xml file) and run "maven eclipse" (still outside of > your IDE). Then you can run your IDE against the project. I > imagine that you'll need to run "maven eclipse" each time you > add new dependencies to your project.xml so that it will > continue to update your classpath correctly (and download > your new dependencies). > > You can get genapp to run without prompting you for > parameters, but you'll need to specify all of the options on > the command line (see the mail archives for how to do this). > > Once you have exhaused the eclipse plugin documentation, the > next best thing to do is to dive in to the plugin code > itself. The plugins are written in jelly > (http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/jelly) and are minature > "maven-ized" projects all by themselves. If you're not sure > how a particular goal works, the jelly code holds the key! :-) > > Happy hunting... > > - Paul > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vikas Phonsa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 6:33 PM > > To: 'Maven Users List' > > Subject: RE: How to start projects with Maven > > > > Paul, > > I have read the documentation. But there are somethings > that I fully > > figure out. > > > > I have been able to configure maven as an external tool in > Eclipse. I > > want to use the genapp plugin to generate a new project. It > seems that > > eclipse won't allow me to do that by just going to the > external tools > > menu and selecting the goal. > > It hangs there like ant <input> task and it needs the some inputs > > which the IDE doesn't seem to ask for. > > > > Are u able to generate new projects from within the IDE > using genapp ? > > How ? > > How do u specify the name of the project from within the IDE? > > > > How do u specify where to create the .project and > .classpath file to > > run the eclipse goal. I made a simple folder in the > workspace and ran > > the eclipse goal after selecting it and the .project and .classpath > > files are generated in it but its not being recognized as a Java > > project by the IDE. > > > > Thanks > > > > Vikas > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vikas Phonsa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:29 PM > > To: 'Maven Users List' > > Subject: RE: How to start projects with Maven > > > > Yeah Paul, > > > > You are the man !! It works. > > > > Thanks > > > > Vikas > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: O'Fallon, Paul (MAN-Corporate) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:28 PM > > To: Maven Users List > > Subject: RE: How to start projects with Maven > > > > Try using forward slashes (/) instead of backslashes (\) in your > > directory names (even on Windows). Ours are several levels > deep and > > work fine. > > > > - Paul > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Vikas Phonsa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 5:17 PM > > > To: 'Maven Users List' > > > Subject: RE: How to start projects with Maven > > > > > > Ok Paul, I'm reading thru all that. But take a look at this. > > > I used this build.properties file to run the > eclipse:external-tools > > > goal. > > > > > > maven.eclipse.workspace=C:\wsad_workspaces\JakartaTesting > > > maven.eclipse.junit=3.7.0 > > > maven.eclipse.output.dir=C:\wsad_workspaces\JakartaTesting\New > > > Maven\classes > > > maven.eclipse.test.output.dir=C:\wsad_workspaces\JakartaTestin > > > g\NewMaven\tes > > > t > > > > > > The goal runs successfully but it creates the following file > > > > > > C:/wsad_wordspacesJakartaTesting/metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse > > > .ui.externalto > > > ols/externaltools.xml > > > > > > > > > > > > But I specified my mave.eclipse.workspace = > > > C:\wsad_workspaces\JakartaTesting > > > > > > Any idea what's going on. Will it not accept another level of > > > directory. > > > > > > Vikas > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: O'Fallon, Paul (MAN-Corporate) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:14 PM > > > To: Maven Users List > > > Subject: RE: How to start projects with Maven > > > > > > Take some time and read through the user's guide > > > (http://maven.apache.org/reference/user-guide.html) It > > will help give > > > you a conceptual understanding of how things work (the section on > > > "Properties Processing" answers your questions about setting > > > properties). There is also a section in the user's guide > > on "Starting > > > a New Project". > > > > > > Once you understand the concepts it is easier to "fill in > > the blanks" > > > and use maven in your own project. > > > > > > - Paul > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Vikas Phonsa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 4:48 PM > > > > To: 'Maven Users List' > > > > Subject: RE: How to start projects with Maven > > > > > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > > > > > Your email shows direction. But I very new to Maven and > > > just finished > > > > my first tutorial. Could you guide how should I proceed > with this > > > > eclipse plug in. I couldn't find any instructions abt > that on the > > > > website. > > > > > > > > The genapp and eclipses plugin webpages list some properties. > > > > Where do I set these properties. In build.properties file ?? > > > > Then what. > > > > > > > > I'm so lost ? I would appreciate some help on how to proceed. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Vikas > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: O'Fallon, Paul (MAN-Corporate) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 1:24 PM > > > > To: Maven Users List > > > > Subject: RE: How to start projects with Maven > > > > > > > > Look at the genapp plugin > > > > http://maven.apache.org/reference/plugins/genapp/ > > > > > > > > As for IDE integration, look at the eclipse plugin > > > > http://maven.apache.org/reference/plugins/eclipse/ > > > > (although it took some additional effort for us to get > > this to work > > > > with > > > > WSAD...) > > > > > > > > HTH, > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Vikas Phonsa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:45 PM > > > > > To: 'Maven Users List' > > > > > Subject: How to start projects with Maven > > > > > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > > > > > I want to know how should the project development be > > > > started in order > > > > > to use Maven. In the tutorials and articles, maven is > > > used to build > > > > > and jar up stuff after the classes have been written. They > > > > wrote the > > > > > project.xml after they had written the classes. > > > > > > > > > > I want to use Maven my WDSC IDE so that Maven acts as an > > > > application > > > > > assembly tool which would get all the dependency jars > on itself. > > > > > In this IDE you see a red mark if some required jar/class > > > > is not found > > > > > and then you go and update the build path. There is a file > > > > that stores > > > > > the paths of all the required jars and I intend to update > > > that file > > > > > with Maven so that those red marks are eliminated in the IDE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So how should I start the projects. 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