I would like to report back that indeed the issue was with needing to use the 
xml instead.  I had thought for sure that it was an issue with the classpath 
within maven, but I have a feeling that ant-contrib was already in my path when 
it came to running ant externally -- and this is why I saw a different behavior.

I am not sure if anyone on this list has write-access to the how-to on writing 
maven plugins with ant...  but if there is, can you update the page to include 
a section on using ant-contrib functions and include this information to allow 
those who come after me to not have to bang their head for a few hours?  The 
functions included in contrib would be very useful for moving official build 
scripts into a plugin method instead (which is what I plan to do here).

Thanks,

Roy

-----Original Message-----
From: Lyons, Roy 
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 9:23 AM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: RE: Using ant-contrib in ant based plugin development

Excellent!  That explains why I had so much trouble with the 'for' task.  I 
will give this method a try with the xml instead.  I very much appreciate your 
reply on this.

-----Original Message-----
From: Aurélien Girardeau [mailto:aurelien.girard...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 8:26 AM
To: Maven Users List; manf...@mosabuam.com
Subject: Re: Using ant-contrib in ant based plugin development

Hi Roy,

I use ant-contrib in a Ant-based Mojo and it works fine for me.

Here is my ant-contrib declaration in my build.xml:

<taskdef resource="net/sf/antcontrib/antlib.xml">
                <classpath>
                    <pathelement location="${ant-contrib-jar}" />
                </classpath>
</taskdef>

Note that antcontrib.properties doesn't contain "for" declaration. Prefer 
antlib.xml.

and here is my mojos.xml for ${ant-contrib-jar} parameter:

<parameter>
<name>ant-contrib-jar</name>
<property>ant-contrib-jar</property>
<required>true</required>
<expression>${ant-contrib-jar}</expression>
<defaultValue>${project.build.directory}/antcontrib/
ant-contrib-1.0b3.jar</defaultValue>
<type>java.lang.String</type>
<description></description>
</parameter>

Note that I don't use a antcontrib artifact deployed in my local repo, but a 
antcontrib jar installed in my ${project.build.directory}. I dont't think it 
change anything.

Did you try an echo on your  ${settings.localRepository}  or  ${user.home} to 
check they are correcty loaded at Maven runtime?

Hope it can help,

Aurélien


2012/7/27 Manfred Moser <manf...@mosabuam.com>

> Why are you not implementing your plugin in Java or even Groovy?
>
>
> http://www.sonatype.com/books/mcookbook/reference/writing-plugins-alte
> rnative-sect-writing-groovy.html
>
> Shell script seems like a bad idea to me if you want it to run everywhere..
>
> manfred
>
> On Fri, July 27, 2012 2:26 pm, Lyons, Roy wrote:
> > Update:
> >
> > Not hearing anything made me give up on pure ant...  I was able to 
> > get things working with the <shellscript shell="ksh"> task, and just
> embedding
> > kornshell.  That, of course, defeats the usual idea of a plugin 
> > since it is platform specific...  but later on, I can add in support 
> > for windows
> by
> > doing a similar shellscript directive with cmd based on the osfamily
> task.
> >  Interestingly, I was able to use both of those from ant-contrib...  but
> > not <for   or <if
> >
> > Odd.
> >
> >
> > I am still interested in possibilities of using ant in its pure 
> > form, so any responses to this thread are still welcome.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Roy
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Lyons, Roy
> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 12:16 PM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: RE: Using ant-contrib in ant based plugin development
> >
> > my webmail made me login again, and I didnt see part of my message 
> > was missing.  here is the full thing:
> >
> >
> > Maven User List,
> >
> > I waited in sending to this list until after I had exhausted my 
> > other resources, including google searching, documentation, and 
> > experimentation of my own.
> >
> > As such, I hope that your collective minds can take on this challenge.
> >
> >
> > So here is the problem:
> >
> > [INFO]    task-segment: [com.cme.plugins:cme-packaging:cme-packaging]
> > (aggregator-style)
> > [INFO]
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ---- [INFO] [cme-packaging:cme-packaging {execution: default-cli}]
> >
> > cmepackage:
> >      [echo] We are in UNIX
> > [INFO]
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----
> > [ERROR] BUILD ERROR
> > [INFO]
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ---- [INFO] Failed to execute: Executing Ant script: 
> > package.build.xml
> > [cmepackage]: Failed to execute.
> >
> > Could not create task or type of type: for.
> >
> > Ant could not find the task or a class this task relies upon.
> >
> > This is common and has a number of causes; the usual solutions are 
> > to read the manual pages then download and install needed JAR files, 
> > or fix the build file:
> >  - You have misspelt 'for'.
> >    Fix: check your spelling.
> >  - The task needs an external JAR file to execute
> >      and this is not found at the right place in the classpath.
> >
> >
> > What is extremely interesting to me is the fact that it can use the 
> > task definition for "osfamily", but not for the "for" task.  Also of 
> > interest to me is the fact that I can use this script with "ant -f"
> > without a problem.
> >
> > Before I get suggestions that I should use java instead, I need to
> confess
> > that I am only now just learning java.  My job in configuration
> management
> > uses a whole lot more in perl and ksh than anything...
> >
> > Also, my research showed lots of ways to cope with it in antrun, 
> > with an inline script -- but that won't do so much for me as I am 
> > trying to make
> a
> > plugin...
> >
> > Here is my declaration in my pom:
> >
> > <build>
> >     <plugins>
> >       <plugin>
> >         <artifactId>maven-plugin-plugin</artifactId>
> >         <version>2.5</version>
> >         <!-- Add the Ant plugin tools -->
> >         <dependencies>
> >           <dependency>
> >             <groupId>org.apache.maven.plugin-tools</groupId>
> >             <artifactId>maven-plugin-tools-ant</artifactId>
> >             <version>2.5</version>
> >           </dependency>
> >           <dependency>
> >              <groupId>ant-contrib</groupId>
> >              <artifactId>ant-contrib</artifactId>
> >              <version>1.0b3</version>
> >             </dependency>
> >
> >
> > I also placed a dependency on ant-contrib in my pom's dependencies 
> > section.
> >
> > my build xml has this in it...  as you can see, I was experimenting 
> > with different methods of forcing it to find the items.  I have 
> > nothing
> special
> > in mojos xml.  Perhaps that is where my issue is?
> >
> > <project name="processPackages" default="cmepackage" basedir="." >
> > <!--
> >    <taskdef uri="antlib:net.sf.antcontrib"
> >             resource="net/sf/antcontrib/antlib.xml"
> >             classpath="path/to/ant-contrib.jar"/>
> > <taskdef resource="net/sf/antcontrib/antlib.xml" /> <taskdef 
> > resource="net/sf/antcontrib/antcontrib.properties" >
> >         <classpath>
> >                 <pathelement
> >
> location="${settings.localRepository}/ant-contrib/ant-contrib/1.0b3/ant-contrib-1.0b3.jar"
> > />
> >         </classpath>
> > </taskdef>
> > -->
> > <taskdef resource="net/sf/antcontrib/antlib.xml" >
> >         <classpath refid="maven.plugin.classpath" /> </taskdef> 
> > <target name="cmepackage"> <osfamily property="os.family" /> <if>
> >         <equals arg1="${os.family}" arg2="unix" />
> >         <then>
> >
> >
> > I had the most luck so far with
> > <taskdef resource="net/sf/antcontrib/antcontrib.properties" >
> >         <classpath>
> >                 <pathelement
> >
> location="${user.home}/.m2/repository/ant-contrib/ant-contrib/1.0b3/ant-contrib-1.0b3.jar"
> > />
> >         </classpath>
> > </taskdef>
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Lyons, Roy
> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 12:15 PM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: Using ant-contrib in ant based plugin development
> >
> > Maven User List,
> >
> > I waited in sending to this list until after I had exhausted my 
> > other resources, including google searching, documentation, and 
> > experimentation of my own.
> >
> > As such, I hope that your collective minds can take on this challenge.
> >
> >
> > So here is the problem:
> >
> > [INFO]    task-segment: [com.cme.plugins:cme-packaging:cme-packaging]
> > (aggregator-style)
> > [INFO]
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ---- [INFO] [cme-packaging:cme-packaging {execution: default-cli}]
> >
> > cmepackage:
> >      [echo] We are in UNIX
> > [INFO]
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----
> > [ERROR] BUILD ERROR
> > [INFO]
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ---- [INFO] Failed to execute: Executing Ant script: 
> > package.build.xml
> > [cmepackage]: Failed to execute.
> >
> > Could not create task or type of type: for.
> >
> > Ant could not find the task or a class this task relies upon.
> >
> > This is common and has a number of causes; the usual solutions are 
> > to read the manual pages then download and install needed JAR files, 
> > or fix the build file:
> >  - You have misspelt 'for'.
> >    Fix: check your spelling.
> >  - The task needs an external JAR file to execute
> >      and this is not found at the right place in the classpath.
> >
> >
> > What is extremely interesting to me is the fact that it can use the 
> > task definition for
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Here is my declaration in my pom:
> >
> > <build>
> >     <plugins>
> >       <plugin>
> >         <artifactId>maven-plugin-plugin</artifactId>
> >         <version>2.5</version>
> >         <!-- Add the Ant plugin tools -->
> >         <dependencies>
> >           <dependency>
> >             <groupId>org.apache.maven.plugin-tools</groupId>
> >             <artifactId>maven-plugin-tools-ant</artifactId>
> >             <version>2.5</version>
> >           </dependency>
> >           <dependency>
> >              <groupId>ant-contrib</groupId>
> >              <artifactId>ant-contrib</artifactId>
> >              <version>1.0b3</version>
> >             </dependency>
> >
> >
> > I also placed a dependency on ant-contrib in my pom's dependencies 
> > section.
> >
> > my build xml has this in it...  as you can see, I was experimenting 
> > with different methods of forcing it to find the items.  I have 
> > nothing
> special
> > in mojos xml.  Perhaps that is where my issue is?
> >
> > <project name="processPackages" default="cmepackage" basedir="." >
> > <!--
> >    <taskdef uri="antlib:net.sf.antcontrib"
> >             resource="net/sf/antcontrib/antlib.xml"
> >             classpath="path/to/ant-contrib.jar"/>
> > <taskdef resource="net/sf/antcontrib/antlib.xml" /> <taskdef 
> > resource="net/sf/antcontrib/antcontrib.properties" >
> >         <classpath>
> >                 <pathelement
> >
> location="${settings.localRepository}/ant-contrib/ant-contrib/1.0b3/ant-contrib-1.0b3.jar"
> > />
> >         </classpath>
> > </taskdef>
> > -->
> > <taskdef resource="net/sf/antcontrib/antlib.xml" >
> >         <classpath refid="maven.plugin.classpath" /> </taskdef> 
> > <target name="cmepackage"> <osfamily property="os.family" /> <if>
> >         <equals arg1="${os.family}" arg2="unix" />
> >         <then>
> >
> >
> > I had the most luck so far with
> > <taskdef resource="net/sf/antcontrib/antcontrib.properties" >
> >         <classpath>
> >                 <pathelement
> >
> location="${user.home}/.m2/repository/ant-contrib/ant-contrib/1.0b3/ant-contrib-1.0b3.jar"
> > />
> >         </classpath>
> > </taskdef>
> >
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