Oh well ... I give up ... so yet another plugin it will be. 

I wasn't talking about changing anything at the workflow, just to have one 
enforced constraint loosended a little if required, but I guess this will never 
happen.

Chris



-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 30. November 2014 22:22
An: Maven Users List
Betreff: Re: Problems with the release plugin

The release plugin is a tool that does a specified set of steps. It's built out 
of reusable components. Turning it into MS Word with
10,000,000 options is not, in my view, a good plan.

If you can write down a clear spec for an alternative workflow, you can study 
the source and make a plugin. That's what the owners of the 
gitflow-maven-plugin did. It's an alternative release plugin with a different 
workflow.


On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> 
wrote:
> Unfortunately the world isn't as ideal as I would like it to be. There are 
> sometimes constraints that lie outside of the reach of the developer(s) 
> working on the projects build.
>
> In one case the company I worked for desperately needed to release parts of a 
> multi module build separately. I know that this comes with problems, but as 
> long as no other option comes up to reduce the amount of binary data of a new 
> release having to be transfered over an Edge mobile connection, they will 
> have to do partial releases.
>
> In my current case the entire company is being switched from Ant to Maven. 
> Switching everything in one big step is completely out of the question. The 
> amount of simultaneous training needed for this is simply not possible. So we 
> have to go a migration path which brings us closer and closer to the final 
> goal of having everything in Maven and be able to use the default 
> maven-release-plugin. But till we are there it feels like there is no way 
> without patching this plugin in order to have an easy transition path.
>
> What about some "legacy" or "quirks" mode for the plugin that allows such a 
> thing ... it might even output warnings and pages of text explaining why this 
> mode sucks and should be avoided. All I am asking for is a way to use the 
> plugin without having to hack it which acknowledging that I know this is not 
> ideal, but I am willing to accept the consequences.
>
> Chris
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 30. November 2014 13:52
> An: Maven Users List
> Betreff: Re: Problems with the release plugin
>
> I'm going to attempt a summary here.
>
> The release plugin has a requirement. It must be true that you can go to the 
> SCM, checkout a brand new copy of the tree rooted at the <scm/> element, 
> _change the versions_ in the pom(s), and run a build as configured by the 
> profiles and goals. If that's not true, the release process will fail, and 
> possibly leave you with a manual cleanup in the SCM. There are many ways to 
> set up a build that seems just fine but fails this test.
>
> The top of this thread is a plea for a 'dry run' that is a perfect simulation 
> of this, so that users can flush this out before it bites them, and that it 
> should not be hard to ask for this.
>
> It seems to me that it should not be hard, in a typical automated build 
> system (Jenkins, etc.) to set up a build that does exactly this.
> Checkout a clean tree, run the maven-versions-plugin to set a dummy version, 
> and run a build, with profiles and goals to match the eventual release. Eat 
> one of these apples every day, and you won't be visiting the maven doctor so 
> often.
>
> It seems to me that it should also not be terribly hard to make this a 
> feature of the maven-release-plugin.
>
> As a further wrinkle, there's the question of tag management, which might be 
> seen as interrelated to the lengthy threads here and elsewhere about never, 
> ever, deleting a tag. I wonder about yet another m-r-p parameter: a staging 
> SCM URL, distinct from the <scm/> stock identifiers. m-r-p would pull from 
> <scm/> but push to this other place. Then, a human could decide if the 
> release is real, and, if so, push the commits and tag to the real, immutable, 
> repo. I'm not qualifier to judge whether this can work for anything other 
> than git, but git sure is popular.
>
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