I concur with Ben,  aggregator module is banned at my work. Top level
parent hosts all modules

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:47 PM, KARR, DAVID <dk0...@att.com> wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephen Connolly [mailto:stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:01 PM
> > To: Maven Users List <users@maven.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: Need to fully understand bad implications of combined
> > aggregator and parent pom
> >
> > You do have relativePath set correctly for the separate parent from
> > aggregator?
>
> Not sure whether you're addressing Benson or me, but setting relativePath
> is definitely a requirement, and I think the error message you get is
> pretty clear when you don’t have it, so I imagine that's not Benson's issue.
>
> In my case, I did some cut/pasting and some global replaces to separate
> the POM into parent and aggregator, and now my build works from the top
> with empty repositories.
>
> I don't use the site plugin.
>
> > On Wed 30 Nov 2016 at 03:28, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > My experience is precisely the opposite of yours. The most common
> > > practice is for the parent to be the aggregator; it's hard to get the
> > > site plugin, for example, to work right with your preferred structure
> > > where they are different.
> > >
> > > I have built many projects with the the one-parent structure, and they
> > > typically have interdependencies between the modules, and they work
> > > fine.  Can you boil this down to a failing case on github? Can you
> > > share some poms?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 9:19 PM, KARR, DAVID <dk0...@att.com> wrote:
> > > > A while ago, I started working on an existing project with many
> > > developers.  The codebase has a large multi-project Maven build.  The
> > > top directory is both an "aggregator" and "parent" POM, as it has a
> > "modules"
> > > list, and all of the child modules have it as their parent POM, for
> > > dependencies and plugins.
> > > >
> > > > I've always believed this is a defective architecture.  I believe
> > > > that
> > > the top-level directory should have an "aggregator" POM that just
> > > lists the modules to build, and a subdirectory of the top-level
> > > directory should have a project that just defines the parent POM,
> > > which defines dependencies and plugins for subprojects to use.
> > > >
> > > > Although I feel this is a "cleaner" architecture, I've never been
> > > > able
> > > to cite specific problems with the other approach, besides the fact
> > > that module changes and dependency/plugin changes go in the same file,
> > > which is still a "cleanliness" argument.
> > > >
> > > > Today I think I saw a real reason why the present architecture is a
> > > problem, but I need to be certain the problem I'm seeing is caused by
> > > this, and that the better architecture fixes this problem, and whether
> > > there is a simple workaround in the meantime.
> > > >
> > > > I've been modifying the build to use a completely new intranet maven
> > > repo and completely different groupids for the build artifacts.
> > > >
> > > > I saw errors like this (with elisions):
> > > > -----------------------
> > > > [INFO] Reactor Summary:
> > > > [INFO]
> > > > [INFO] big-parent ......................................... FAILURE
> > > > [
> > > 5.230 s]
> > > > [INFO] some-other-module................................... SKIPPED
> > > > [INFO] another-module...................................... SKIPPED
> > > > [INFO] .....................................................SKIPPED
> > > > [INFO]
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > --
> > > > [INFO] BUILD FAILURE
> > > > [INFO]
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > --
> > > > [INFO] Total time: 8.063 s
> > > > [INFO] Finished at: 2016-11-29T16:23:36-08:00 [INFO] Final Memory:
> > > > 41M/1093M [INFO]
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > --
> > > > [ERROR] Failed to execute goal on project some-other-module: Could
> > > > not
> > > resolve dependencies for project
> > > com.mycomp.detsusl:some-other-module:bundle:2.0.0-SNAPSHOT: Could not
> > > find artifact com.mycomp.detsusl:another-module:jar:2.0.0-SNAPSHOT in
> > > mycomp-public-group (
> > > http://mavencentral.it.mycomp.com:8084/nexus/content/repositories/myco
> > > mp-public-group/)
> > > -> [Help 1]
> > > > [ERROR]
> > > > ---------------
> > > >
> > > > The "big-parent" module is the top-level directory that is both the
> > > aggregator and parent pom.
> > > >
> > > > Conceptually, I think this is happening because Maven is trying to
> > > evaluate dependencies before those dependencies are built.  Again, I
> > > think the "separated" architecture will resolve this, but before I
> > > implement that, I need to understand exactly what is going on here.
> > > >
> > > > In my local workspace, I got around this by simply "cd"ing to the
> > > "another-module" directory and doing a "mvn install", then "cd"ing to
> > > "some-other-module", doing the same, and then doing the same again at
> > > the top level. The reality was messier than this, because I had quite
> > > a few modules that I had to build manually this way.
> > > >
> > > > Assuming I'm right that separating the "parent" function from the
> > > "aggregator" function would resolve this, can someone explain exactly
> > > what is happening here, how my assumed solution would resolve this,
> > > and whether there's a cleaner temporary workaround besides "cd"ing
> > > into each directory to do a separate install?
> > > >
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