Hi Alexander and Marcel,

A good news for us, the patch for the issue 2921 (
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-2921) is applied.
I haven't try it.

Regards,
Rémy

2007/5/29, Marcel Schutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Alexander,

Your suggestion of using scope provided will work I guess, but I just
can't bring myself to duplicating an artifacts' dependencies: it invalidates
the whole idea of transitive dependencies where I define an artifacts'
dependencies in the pom that is used to build it and nowhere else.

Separating out the ejb interfaces into a another artifact would certainly
do the trick and enable me to declare just their dependencies. When
following this path you could forget about ejb-client types altogether.

Does anyone else have some thoughts on this issue?

Regards,
Marcel
----- Original Message ----
From: Alexander Sack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Maven Users List <users@maven.apache.org>; Marcel Schutte <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 5:59:46 PM
Subject: Re: Some guidance using EJB client dependencies

Marcel,

Okay, classical manifest examples (straight out of the spec too).  Well
you
can get around that with some pom configuration (i.e. you can use provided
in the B.ear pom for all the transitive dependencies you inherit from the
E.jar, etc., I think that would work).  I'm a JBoss guy at heart so
typically what I do (and per their funky classloader hierarchy), I will
separate those common interfaces into a jar file that gets deployed
outside
the EAR so they can both share the same file.  Not sure how that works on
other platforms though so I can't say that is a best practice.

Alright, seems like Maven needs to handle these scenarios better.  I think
definitely ejb-client support would help...

-aps

On 5/29/07, Marcel Schutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Alexander,
>
> Exactly, I don't want the ejb dependencies to automatically become the
> ejb-client dependencies. Perhaps you don't run into this problem because
the
> artifact that depends on your ejb-client is in the same ear as the ejb
is.
>
> I have a situation where A.ear contains the ejb module E.jar and
B.earcontains some artifact
> X.jar that depends on E-client.jar. Now, B.ear will contain all of the
> dependencies of E.jar (for instance hibernate and all its transitive
> dependencies if you remember my previous example).
>
> A solution for this would be some configuration in the pom.xml for the
ejb
> and ejb-client that uses includes or excludes to indicate which
dependencies
> you need for the ejb-client. Typically, this won't be very much.
>
> Regards,
> Marcel
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Alexander Sack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Maven Users List <users@maven.apache.org>; Marcel Schutte <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 5:22:44 PM
> Subject: Re: Some guidance using EJB client dependencies
>
> Marcel:
>
> So you have a situation where you have a bunch of dependencies in your
> core
> EJB jar and you don't want them to leak into your EJB client
> jar?  Something
> like that?  Only reason why I ask is that I don't run into this problem
> and
> I'm trying to figure out why? :D!
>
> I think the reason is that any dependencies of my EJB module goes into
the
> EAR (/lib) with a corresponding Class-Path manifest entry which  doesn't
> effect the EJB client jar at all.  To be honest though, most of my
> projects
> have very sparse EJB client jars with not a whole lot minus some local
> client interfaces (and potentially a domain object or two...).
>
> -aps
>
> On 5/29/07, Marcel Schutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Alexander,
> >
> > What I mean is that an ejb-client artifact normally has far less
> > dependencies than the ejb artifact. A typical ejb in our case uses
> hibernate
> > for its persistence, but of course an application that wants to call
> this
> > ejb by using the ejb-client doesn't want this (and all transitive
> > dependencies) on its classpath. The problem is that both are built
from
> the
> > same pom.xml.
> >
> > I am not sure whether your suggestion with scope provided and manifest
> > configuration could solve this. I can't use scope provided because for
> the
> > ejb I need the dependencies to be packaged in the containing ear.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Marcel
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Alexander Sack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Maven Users List <users@maven.apache.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 4:03:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: Some guidance using EJB client dependencies
> >
> > Remy and Marcel: Thanks!
> >
> > I saw the JIRA below and feel this is royally bad for 2.0.6.  Guys,
how
> > the
> > heck am I suppose to use Maven for projects that need to define
> > ejb-clients?  Right now I would have to write some ugly ANT code to do
> all
> > the heavy lifting.
> >
> > When is 2.0.7 due out?  I really need this fix badly.  I'm getting
> around
> > this in pure maven by just changing the packaging schemes which is not
> > what
> > I wanted architecturally (including the ejb-jar in the EAR in order to
> > avoid
> > classpath issues).
> >
> > Marcel, can you be a little bit more specific in terms of what you
want
> > out
> > of the ejb-client dependencies functionality?  I'm curious on what you
> > mean.  Are you having problems with Maven including all of the
> > dependencies
> > in your ejb-client jar instead of subset?  Why not just specify in the
> > project that some of those are scope provided and then use the
manifest
> > configuration stuff to specify an exact Class-Path, etc.?  Again, just
> > curious....
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -aps
> >
> > On 5/29/07, Rémy Sanlaville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I think it's related to http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-2921
> > >
> > > Rémy
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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