Hi,

I don't mean to hijack this thread, but my experience is that test
people love traceability. Thus, I think they would expect a created
tag/label to stay as they file bug reports on it. (I guess this is out
of a larger non-agile organization's point of view.)

Just my 2 cents,
/Anders

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 16:41, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 13/05/2009, Jason van Zyl <jvan...@sonatype.com> wrote:
>>
>>  On 13-May-09, at 10:11 AM, sebb wrote:
>>
>>
>> > On 13/05/2009, nicolas de loof <nicolas.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > With this approach, all RC tags (and the final one) point to a source
>> code
>> > > that generate the finalName artifact.
>> > > more complete sample
>> > >
>> >
>> > Yes, but AFAICS the tag 1.0 points to different code at different
>> > times, so does not uniquely identify the code.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>  Tags should not contain different code at different points in time. That's
>> just a bad practice. It happens by accident occasionally but to change code
>> on tags consciously is just a bad practice.
>
> I entirely agree.
>
> However AFAICT that is exactly what many Maven release procedures
> involve, because the tag is deleted and recreated.
>
> To go back to my original question - how does one use Maven with release tags?
>
> The restriction is that a tag, once created, is never changed (it may
> be copied or deleted, but never updated or *re*created).
>
>>
>> >
>> > So if someone says that "the archives generated from tag 1.0" are OK -
>> > or not OK - how do you know what code they are referring to?
>> >
>> >
>> > > from trunk 1.0-SNAPSHOT
>> > >
>> > > release:prepare version = 1.0
>> > > release:stage
>> > > --> tag = 1.0
>> > > --> artifact = foo-1.0.jar, deployed on staging repository
>> > >
>> > > test, test, test BUG !
>> > >
>> > > release:roolback
>> > > --> trunk is back to 1.0-SNAPSHOT
>> > > // rename the tag, as this one was a buggy RC
>> > > svn mv tags\1.0 tags\1.0-RC1
>> > >
>> > > go back to step 1
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > > No bug found ?
>> > > well done, you've got your release
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 2009/5/13 sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > On 13/05/2009, nicolas de loof <nicolas.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > 1. release:stage with the target version 0.9 (renaming a released
>> JAR may
>> > > > > have some strange side-effects)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > test, test, test ..
>> > > > > --> all fine ? you've got it
>> > > > > --> some bugs : release:rollback , fix and back to step 1.
>> > > > > You only have to rename (or remove) the tag created in SCM for the
>> > > > >
>> > > > release
>> > > >
>> > > > > (candidate)
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > I don't follow this - how does this ensure that a given tag name (URL)
>> > > > only ever refers to a single code set?
>> > > >
>> > > > I may have misunderstood, but it seems to me that the tag is being
>> > > > reused, and therefore does not uniquely identify the source.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 2009/5/13 Todd Thiessen <thies...@nortel.com>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > So what is the extact work flow?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 1. Run release:stage with a version like myproject-0.9-RC1
>> > > > > > 2. When problems are found, rollback, fix the problem and run
>> > > > > > release:stage again, incrementing RC2, 3, etc....
>> > > > > > 3. When no more problems are found with the RC, perform a rollback
>> and
>> > > > > > then a release:perform using the actual release version. (in this
>> case
>> > > > > > myproject-0.9)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > ---
>> > > > > > Todd Thiessen
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > > From: nicolas de loof
>> [mailto:nicolas.del...@gmail.com]
>> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:13 AM
>> > > > > > > To: Maven Users List
>> > > > > > > Subject: Re: How can one handle release candidates in Maven?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Use the release:stage goal to create your release candidates.
>> > > > > > > If you find a bug, you just have to release:rollback and
>> > > > > > > rename the tag from finalName to finalName_RCx
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > 2009/5/13 Fabien KRUBA <fabien.kr...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > I suppose you can use release:prepare and perform multiple
>> times
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > if
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > you give the RC version number when asked ?
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> http://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-releasing.html
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:55 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > What I would like to be able to do with Maven is:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Create an SVN tag, e.g. myproject-0.9-RC1 from current
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > code in trunk
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > (or perhaps a branch)
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Create and test the release candidate from the tag.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Publish the release candidate somewhere temporarily so
>> others
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > can
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > check if the release candidate is OK.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > If there are problems, fix the trunk (or branch) and create
>> a
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > new
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > tag, e.g. myproject-0.9-RC2. Repeat as needed.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Suppose RC3 is OK, then the artifacts need to be renamed (if
>> > > > > > > > > necessary) to remove the -RC3 suffix, and published to
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > the release
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > repository.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > The tag is also renamed, i.e. myproject-0.9-RC3 =>
>> myproject-0.9
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > The end result is a published release (without RC suffix).
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > The idea behind this is to ensure that the tag URL alone is
>> > > > > > > > > sufficient to identify the exact contents used to create the
>> > > > > > > > > release, and that the artifacts that are published are
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > identical to
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > the ones that were checked (apart perhaps from the file
>> names).
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Is this possible using Maven?
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
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>>  Jason
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