I don't have much thought on the matter, but I've been using
the "experimental tree2" component, and it works great!
Mind you, I don't have a complicated web application and
using the TreeModel in the session scope works FOR ME, it 
might not be so for others.

regards
Edwin

On 8/5/05, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don't panic.  I'm still just exploring ... I agree with you Mathias
> that requiring a session-scoped model may be problematic.  Its
> definitely a drawback ...
> 
> One possibility is the user supply an optional state manager to keep
> track of expanded state information as well as node selection.  This
> would allow request scoped models.  I'm not wild about it, but it
> would seem to solve the problem.
> 
> What other suggestiosn do people have to solve the original problem?
> (ie. Give users more flexability in controlling these aspects.)  I
> didn't get much feedback from the tree2 summit post on the dev list
> but clearly there are some opinions out there :-)
> 
> I will be off for the weekend (and I will mull this over.)  Give some
> thought and post your ideas here on this thread.
> 
> sean
> 
> On 8/5/05, ir. ing. Jan Dockx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Please please please don't make tree2 depend on a treemodel being kept
> > in session scope. We are working hard to get a framework that depends
> > on only minimal data in session scope, e.g., for tables, since storing
> > large datamodels (> 10 objects with many concurrent users, > 100
> > objects with less many concurrent users, etc) in session scope is
> > obviously unsustainable. Now if treemodel needs to reside in session
> > scope, we will have the same trouble all over again.
> >
> > It is ok for the Node interface to have methods to easily access the
> > current component, but expande state etc. really should be stored in
> > the component, and not in the model. The methods in the model should be
> > regarded as shortcuts to access the state in the current component.
> >
> > This is consistent with the philosophy of MVC: this is view state, and
> > belongs in the component, and not in the model. E.g., also, you could
> > have 2 tree's that show the same treemodel, with different view states.
> >
> >
> > On 4 Aug 2005, at 22:20, Sean Schofield wrote:
> >
> > > More progress on Tree2.  After a lively debate (with myself) I have
> > > decided (for the moment) to require and instance of TreeModel for
> > > @value.  This will break current JSP pages using tree2 so I suggest
> > > tree2 users follow this thread closely.  You have been warned!
> > >
> > > The advantage of maintaining the expanded state in the TreeModel
> > > outweigh the minor hassle of adding a TreeModel foo = new
> > > TreeModelBase(oldFoo) to your code to get it to work.  (Note: oldFoo
> > > would be the root TreeNode that was previously used for @value.)
> > >
> > > Given the likely dynamic nature of the data underlying the model, this
> > > new approach makes sense.  If a node is added (or dropped) in the
> > > model, the expanded state (and eventually selected state) can also be
> > > modified accordingly.  The HtmlTree is absolved of all responsibility
> > > in this area so if your expanded state is wrong, it will be the user's
> > > fault.  Now users can specify the expanded state in their own
> > > implementation of TreeModel.  I've also added a setExpandAll method to
> > > TreeModelBase so that you can specify all of the nodes to start off
> > > expanded.  So no more talk of tree3 please :-)
> > >
> > > Feedback is welcome.  I'm checking in the code momentarily.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > sean
> > >
> > >
> > Met vriendelijke groeten,
> >
> > Jan Dockx
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