Hmmm ... and I could make one that is generic enough to work for all 10 or so 
places in the project where I need this.  Managed properties would be used to 
tell each "ConverterBean" where to place the new converted value.  Thanks.

Dennis Byrne

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Kienenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:38 PM
>To: 'MyFaces Discussion'
>Subject: Re: Wanting to validate *before* conversion
>
>No, that's not what I'm recommending.
>I'm recommending binding it to an intermediate presentation backing
>bean that does the conversion and forwards the binding to your domain
>model.
>
>We're not moving validate before conversion, but we are moving
>conversion after validate :)
>
>On 1/18/06, Dennis Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Yeah.  I'll probably change the Date in the domain model to a String, then 
>> configure the ORM to convert the String to a datetime in the DB.  Thanks.
>>
>> Dennis Byrne
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Mike Kienenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:00 PM
>> >To: 'MyFaces Discussion'
>> >Subject: Re: Wanting to validate *before* conversion
>> >
>> >My suggestion would be to bind it to a String so you can do the
>> >validation the way you want, and then convert the value in your value
>> >binding methods, since you should be able to guarantee that the
>> >conversion will work without errors at that point.
>> >
>> >On 1/17/06, Dennis Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> I have a requirement to provide users with a single text field to specify 
>> >> time.  The time must be in [0-23]:[0-59] format ( in the US, military 
>> >> format).  The inputText field is bound to a java.util.Date in the domain 
>> >> model.
>> >>
>> >> In cases where users enter an invalid time, a ConverterException prevents 
>> >> validation.  I would like to avoid the following :
>> >>
>> >> * letting the exception occur, and handling it at the dep. desc. level
>> >> * swallowing exceptions in the Converter, and validating the 
>> >> submittedValue
>> >> * throwing a ValidatorException from a Converter
>> >>
>> >> Must I do this manually in an action ?
>> >>
>> >> Dennis Byrne
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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