In my opinion, you're better off using facelets. Facelets appears to be more widely-accepted than Clay. For instance, Oracle ADF Faces supports facelets out of the box. Jenia4Faces supports facelets. Exadel supports facelets. I don't think any of them provide support for Clay. On the other hand, perhaps no such support is needed -- I haven't really used Clay. My monitoring of the mailing list leads me to believe otherwise, though.
Facelets appears to have a much larger user base than Clay. That's just my general opinion having monitored both Shale and Facelets since last May. Facelets is maintained primarily by two JSF Expert Group members. Facelets activity appears to be actively monitored by two other high-profile JSF EG members. Facelets fixes a number of JSF 1.1 issues by providing JSF 1.2 behavior. I know Gary has put a lot of work into Clay, but I think the forward momentum is in favor of facelets. I would not be surprised to see facelets included as part of a JSF 2.0 specification. On 2/24/06, Garner, Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've used struts template tags a little. > I've just used tiles on a new struts project recently. > Don't know if I did it the "correct" way both times but it works without a > bunch of xml definitions files. > > The main problem with tiles in JSF is that it is writing the content to my > tables out before my tables are written. > > Well it says to do a f:verbatim or h:outputText. But I don't want to do > that every time I want to write out text or HTML text. Seems like extra > effort that is not needed. > > Also I didn't want to write a new page.tiles xml definition for every JSP > page. Also I find it very html designer unfriendly. > > > I like the facelets approach but I would kind of like to stick with an > Apache product if Clay in Shale would do the same thing with about the same > amount of work. > > > Shawn > -----Original Message----- > From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:23 AM > To: MyFaces Discussion > Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template > > The O'Reilly book "JavaServer Faces" has a section in "Chapter 12: Odds > and Ends" called "Combining JSF Views with Other Content." That gives > an example of how to use Tiles in JSF. Also the book "Core JavaServer > Faces" has a Chapter entitled "Subviews and Tiles." > > Are you familiar with using Tiles outside of JSF? If so, we can > concentrate on how to use it within JSF. Otherwise, you may need some > background on Tiles itself (regardless of its integration with JSF). > > - Brendan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:38 AM > To: 'MyFaces Discussion' > Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template > > > Somebody posted that page but I don't quite get how it works. > > Shawn > -----Original Message----- > From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 1:08 PM > To: MyFaces Discussion > Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template > > We're using Tiles with JSF and have no problems. Works wonderfully, in > fact. We just needed to code up a tilesDispatch.jsp to avoid having to > create a page for every tile. (One of the other threads on the subject > gives a link for how to do this. If you can't find the link, let me > know. I think it was on java.net.) > > - Brendan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Garner, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:51 PM > To: 'MyFaces Discussion' > Subject: RE: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template > > > I looked at Clay and it looks like it will work but I want to examine > facelets more first. > > The facelets tutorial says it does easy templating but there were no > examples on how to do it and I couldn't find one in the documentation. > Is there an example of this somewhere? > > > Shawn > -----Original Message----- > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Harper > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:44 PM > To: users@myfaces.apache.org > Subject: Re: [JSF] Tiles and Reusable Template > > Garner, Shawn wrote: > > I tried using tiles with JSF and found it does not work very well. > > > > You end up having to define every page in the tiles.xml file that you > want > > to use the template for. > > > > Are there any other approaches to creating a reusable template that > uses > > multiple jsp pages? > > > > Seems like I should be able to just include a page and override the > body, > > title portion without redefining the template for every page. > > You may be able to do what you want with Tiles using the JSP tags > instead of the XML file. Alternatively, take a look at Facelets or Shale > > Clay. > > L. > > ************************************************************************ > **** > This email may contain confidential material. > If you were not an intended recipient, > Please notify the sender and delete all copies. > We may monitor email to and from our network. > ************************************************************************ > **** > > ************************************************************************ > **** > This email may contain confidential material. > If you were not an intended recipient, > Please notify the sender and delete all copies. > We may monitor email to and from our network. > ************************************************************************ > **** > > **************************************************************************** > This email may contain confidential material. > If you were not an intended recipient, > Please notify the sender and delete all copies. > We may monitor email to and from our network. > **************************************************************************** >
