I'd add one more question - is
"session-per-conversation" approach suitable for
shopping cart scenario: ShoppingCart instance lives
for the application lifespan and persistent objects
(say ProductItem) are added and removed? I'm asking
because we had some problems with
"session-per-conversation" concerning objects that did
not have clear conversation boundaries. 

Regards, 
  Alexey

--- Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> When is Seam closing the session if the user leaves
> the PC and doesn't
> finish his task?
> 
> when the servlet session is closed?
> 
> regards,
> 
> Martin
> 
> On 4/4/06, Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Mario Ivankovits schrieb:
> >
> > > I still think the seam way is the better,
> "session in conversation" is
> > > much more intuitive to work with as you can work
> with your objects as
> > > expected.
> > > I would like to see a seam-light. A single jar
> file which you can drop
> > > into your tomcat and can start working with :-)
> > >
> >
> > Yes, I think Seams biggest  problem is the huge
> number of dependencies
> > and the configuration hell of around 3 xml files
> and somewhat 40 jars.
> >
> > Seams biggest + is the session in conversation
> filter which allows you
> > to work with objects and orm sessions they way
> they were originally
> > intended, so that users do not run into the
> dreaded object out of
> > session scope problems anymore which are very
> annoying.
> >
> > Maybe Shale could deliver something like it along
> the lines, they
> > already have a dialog/conversation pattern in
> place. (which is badly in
> > need for a graphical frontend ;-) )
> >
> >
> 
> 
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