They have been fixed in JSF 1.2 . Dennis Byrne
>-----Original Message----- >From: Iordanov, Borislav \(GIC\) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 02:46 PM >To: 'MyFaces Discussion' >Subject: RE: the sinful JSF in JSP > >Thanks for the pointer! > >JSF has been in development for more than 5 years now, and its >integration with JSP was explicitly taken into account since the very >beginning. Those are not minor incompatibilities, they are very close to >show stoppers! And honestly, the fact that they are "well-known" and >"discussed" doesn't make them any less serious and surprising (well, >that's being polite - actually I find them ridiculous; I find it sad >that, yet again as it so often happens in our industry, a company has >enough power to practically impose technological standards, but then >hires people with the wrong set of competencies to develop them). > >Best, >Bolerio > >PS I apologize for the rant. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dennis Byrne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 2:28 PM >To: MyFaces Discussion >Subject: Re: the sinful JSF in JSP > >Boris, don't let ideas like this influence your development. Despite a >handful of well known incompatibilities [1], there is nothing wrong with >writing applications where HTML, JSF, JSP, JSTL and servlets are mixed, >just as there is nothing wrong with mixing JDBC and an ORM. > >I really wish so many folks in the JSF community hadn't promoted this >idea. It has been my observation that most of these individuals fall >into two categories. There are experts who oversold JSF. The rest are >quite new to the field, and are eager to latch on to any kind of >'hard-and-fast' rule in response to so much complexity and confusion >that comes w/ each new framework. > >Dennis Byrne > >[1] http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2004/06/09/jsf.html > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Iordanov, Borislav \(GIC\) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 02:00 PM >>To: 'MyFaces Discussion' >>Subject: the sinful JSF in JSP >> >>Guys, >> >>I know it's anathema to use JSF with JSPs, but since people have >already >>invested in JSP, it's kind of unavoidable. Also, the mixup of the two >>technologies is promoted by the JSF spec team. >> >>Now, let's say I want to have a paragraph with text, where the text >>comes from some managed bean. I do this: >> >><p> >><h:outputText value="myBean.text"/> >></p> >> >>This doesn't work because the execution flow of the JSF model doesn't >>correspond to the flow of source code in my JSP page. Is there a >>standard way to overcome this problem? >> >>Thanks, >>Bolerio >> > > >