I think the existence of facelets, the motivation behind it, show JSF's failure to deliver on its promise (after so many years!). I haven't looked into Facelets, not that I'm afraid to learn some new "view technology". I just don't want to impose this "bug fix" to people that have already invested time in learning and using JSP pages, with custom tag libraries developed etc (is Facelets backwards compatible with JSP? probably not).
-----Original Message----- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Werner Punz Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 4:36 AM To: users@myfaces.apache.org Subject: Re: New to MyFaces Iordanov, Borislav (GIC) schrieb: > I'm not sure what "statistics" you are looking for. I haven't done an > industry analysis. But in general, JSF is heavyweight machinery without > any substantial benefit. Simple things are complicated and complicated > things impossible. It was obviously designed by (probably smart, Java > knowledgeable) people that have no serious experience with web > development. A well-known example is that it still doesn't work well > with JSP (a technology for which JSF was designed from the start!) and > it probably never will. > > JSF 1.2 does (myfaces soon will have jsf 1.2 level) and facelets basically do what jsp does. You basically speak about the mixin problems of html and jsf (verbatim tags) this problem is gone in the jsf 1.2 spec, and in facelets, facelets also eliminates problems introduced by jsp...