There are some usecases, where it is really, really useful to have a
definite id on the component and where forceid is needed: eg. if you want to
use tinyMCE as texteditor on a textfield. Using a defined id is the only
solution to style different textfields with different tinyMCE-Skins.

The onclick-handler and passing this is not a good or even sufficient
solution to this problem: Remember, that this is still markup, not code, and
an unobtrusive way of adding behavior to the elements in a dom-tree is
certainly preferrable to scattering your code over the whole page (even if
it is generated and "only" javascript) - (eg. see
http://alistapart.com/articles/behavioralseparation for a discussion of
unobtrusive javascript)

and unless someone can show up a better way, forceId is currently the only
way to tie hand-written javascript to jsf-components

therefore +0.8 by me, as it is dirty, but useful sometimes.

cheers
stf

2007/4/13, Volker Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

i revert to +0.5 because im not realy involved in tomahawk.

But if someone try to introduce forceId to tobago he gets my -1.

I still can't see any reason to use this (except user/password fields
on form based login).
Regards,
   Volker

2007/4/13, Volker Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2007/4/12, Simon Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > And forceId sucks anyway. I'd like to see it deprecated and removed
from
> > Tomahawk completely.
>
> +1
>
> :-)
>
> Regards,
>   Volker
>
> >
> > This is not needed when javascript is invoked from the "onclick" of a
> > component, which is most of the time. Just pass the "this" component
to
> > the javascript function and resolve the desired component id relative
to
> > the client-id of the component on which the onclick occurred.
> >
> > For the other cases, a tag that outputs the client-id of a target
> > component as a javascript variable is a nicer solution. At worst,
there
> > is a collision of javascript variable names but at least that doesn't
> > stuff up the JSF component ids.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Simon
> >
> > Mike Kienenberger wrote:
> > > Probably because facelets detects valid attributes by looking for a
> > > concrete getter.
> > >
> > > ForceId is implemented as a generic getter, so facelets will never
be
> > > able to find a "getForceId()" method on a component.    You can
ignore
> > > the warning as facelets will just set/get using the generic method
> > > when the concrete method fails.   Maybe some point down the road it
> > > might be worthwhile to see facelet taglib files identify these
> > > "hidden" attributes, but functionally, it'll work just fine as is.
> > > Having to add these to the taglib files starts to make it too much
> > > like jsp busywork :-)
> > >
> > > On 4/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> Don't know if this has been discussed here before...
> > >>
> > >> I am getting warnings that the 'forceId' attribute is not on
various
> > >> types, e.g., org.apache.myfaces.component.html.ext.HtmlInputText
.  I
> > >> recently ported to facelets and I don't remember seeing this
warning
> > >> when I was just using myfaces alone.
> > >>
> > >> I saw a work-around, but I am wondering whether I have to do some
> > >> additional configuration.
> > >>
> >
> >
>

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